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Old 17th August 2008   #2
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Great picture! (Have a look at the original link)

Last edited by Jim Jones; 17th August 2008 at 13:27.. Reason: picture embedding all bolloxed up.
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Old 17th August 2008   #3
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grrrrrr.
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Old 17th August 2008   #4
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Old 17th August 2008   #5
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Old 17th August 2008   #6
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Non-motorists subsidise all users of motorised transport in Australia. The subsidy to road users has been conservatively estimated to be approximately $8 billion per year (Laird, 2000).

Not only is the effective speed of car travel in urban areas lower than we may have thought, we now have to travel further to get to destinations because of the impact of the car.
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Old 17th August 2008   #7
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and cope with a huge physical change to the landscape in the shape of enormo-retail parks, out of town hypermarkets, cinema megaplexes outside the town bypass. etc. all well and good if you do drive a car, all shit and offensive if you don't.
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Old 17th August 2008   #8
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yep, the world is going to shit.

we're (us on this forum, cycling people) a minority with very little power to do anything about the way things have gone/will go
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Old 17th August 2008   #9
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Quitter.
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Old 17th August 2008   #10
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just a bad patch
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Old 17th August 2008   #11
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beak up, chicken.
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Old 17th August 2008   #12
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Just imagine how fucking angry we would all be if every dozy prick in a car was on a bike. You'd never even make it to work. You'd be decapitated by a right-signalling hand before you'd gone half a mile.
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Old 17th August 2008   #13
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Better a wall of cyclists than a wall of cars.
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Old 17th August 2008   #14
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great article, thanks hippy. what's the year on year increase in cycling in London? how soon till we become dominant?
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Old 17th August 2008   #15
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Cycling figures have been going nuts here (and probably back home) but it's going to take a long time (if ever) before we out number cars. Too many people are too lazy to consider alternatives to the car.
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Old 17th August 2008   #16
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I feel in more danger when surrounded by cyclists than by cars. Either I feel an irresistible urge to be in front of all of them, or someone else feels an irresistible urge to be in front of me
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Old 17th August 2008   #17
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I feel in more danger when surrounded by cyclists than by cars. Either I feel an irresistible urge to be in front of all of them, or someone else feels an irresistible urge to be in front of me
or worse still - both at the same time!
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Old 17th August 2008   #18
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"your'e better off by bike" TFL ad just played on ch5 as I was reading this post, apt.

(Also featured part of my commute on the ad, now back to the vaginal surgery documentary)
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Old 17th August 2008   #19
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This is now the desktop on my flashy new 24" apple display dontchaknow.
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Old 17th August 2008   #20
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flashy? that's unfortunate. I hope you don't have epilepsy! :)
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Old 18th August 2008   #21
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I feel in more danger when surrounded by cyclists than by cars. Either I feel an irresistible urge to be in front of all of them, or someone else feels an irresistible urge to be in front of me
This is the same feelings drivers get.. I'd rather everyone was in control of 10kg of steel than 1000kg.
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