Tubular came off... ouch - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

dorr · 16th August 2008

riding back from few drinks last night and my front tub came off the rim on a corner and i slammed hard, could have been a lot worse though...it was quite an old tire and old glue, anyone have any experiences like this or do i just need some new glue/tape/tyre ??

hippy · 16th August 2008

People ride tubs without knowing how to install them??

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...e+Search&meta=

h2o · 16th August 2008

People ride tubs on pub bikes, for that matter?

hippy · 16th August 2008

I guess coz they're a cheap way of getting 'silly wheels' on your bike.

But surely you'd work out how to use the feckers first? What if you puncture.. just gonna leave the bike at the pub?!

h2o · 16th August 2008

Even if you do know how to fix them - are you going to start sewing the thing up again on the side of the road in the dark when you're half-cut?

hippy · 16th August 2008

I'd expect people to carry a spare tyre and fit that. Do any repair work at home.

Sano · 16th August 2008

I carry a spare tub. Fuck sitting by the side of the road with a scalpel, needles and a reel of cotton. I look stupid enough on my clown bike as it is.

h2o · 16th August 2008

Gluing in the dark, half-cut then. I dunno, each to their own in terms of what they prefer to ride on the road, but tubs + pubs seems a bad mix.

dorr · 16th August 2008

yea it came with the frame and the wheel is a silly 24" thing, ive been looking for a clincher version but not found anything yet, it was pretty old so i think the glue and tyre were just past their best, but im definatly not up for it happening again, its not the usual ride so untill i can glue the new beast on properly it might have a little break.

Merak · 16th August 2008

Nasty. Was it like this? Beloki was proper fucked after that, never the same again :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8m5-sR6I4

dorr · 16th August 2008

like a 15 mph version and got away with just a few grazes, oh and lance didnt nearly run me over then go through a field....nuts

the-smiling-buddha · 16th August 2008

I fill my tubs with latex and intown I carry a spanner extra latex and a pump enough to get me home unless I have a really big cut out on the road I carry a spare tub I have had my tubs since january and have yet to puncture I use tufo tape and corner hard

Merak · 16th August 2008

You boys are hardcore with the tubs. Seems like a lot of hassle to me. What are the advantages? Are they faster? Don't see the point for commuting/ bombing around on.

the-smiling-buddha · 16th August 2008

I have them on my road bike so that I can run with old skool low profile rims you can inflate them harder than clinchers so they roll really nicely on the open road and they don't puncture as easily at least the ones I have don't I also think that tubs are kinda cooler

Merak · 16th August 2008

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Originally Posted by the-smiling-buddha

I have them on my road bike so that I can run with old skool low profile rims you can inflate them harder than clinchers so they roll really nicely on the open road and they don't puncture as easily at least the ones I have don't I also think that tubs are kinda cooler

Fair play. I inflate my clinchers to 125 psi can tubs go higher? I have never used them.

winston · 16th August 2008

I inflate my track tubs to 180psi...they will go higher.

part of what holds the tub on is the pressure....so going back to the original post...maybe presure was low or a slow puncture.

when not riding for a while deflate your tubs but leave enough pressure in for them to keep their shape..otherwise they'll pull away from the rim....tubs that have been left deflated for a long time may not be very well attached!

asm · 16th August 2008

in that case why deflate them at all? I guess with 180 PSI its kinda high..

winston · 17th August 2008

coz everyone else does!....but probably to reduce the stress on the stitching when they're not being used? but the main reason i do it is i generally store my bike at HH in a sea container...of which I have no control over the temperature...they get very hot in the summer=popped tubs if you leave them at race pressure.

mister k · 17th August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by hippy

I guess coz they're a cheap way of getting 'silly wheels' on your bike.

that's why i have a tub on the front!

hippy · 17th August 2008

Exactly. But I'd never do tubs on the road. I get angry enough when I puncture with clinchers..

gav · 17th August 2008

Cheapness is definately a big factor now. I picked up some road wheels for a friend last month, super record hubs, bladed spokes and wolber profil 18 rims, 23 quid.

the-smiling-buddha · 17th August 2008

on puncturing technically tubs are easier to change than clinchers just pull one tub off put a prestretched one on and off you go I can't tell you how well this works as at a 180psi I haven't had a puncture

SOAR · 17th August 2008

I think tubs are easier to use now than they ever have been. I have ridden Tufo S3s for the last 8 months with no punctures. Use their self-repairing puncture liquid and Tufo extreme tub tape and you are away. Tufos have a pretty crap reputation with Time Trialers for their perceived high rolling resistance, but for street and/or amateur road racing they are really easy to use. And even as a street rider you will definitely notice the better ride quality from tubs.

the-smiling-buddha · 17th August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOAR

I think tubs are easier to use now than they ever have been. I have ridden Tufo S3s for the last 8 months with no punctures. Use their self-repairing puncture liquid and Tufo extreme tub tape and you are away. Tufos have a pretty crap reputation with Time Trialers for their perceived high rolling resistance, but for street and/or amateur road racing they are really easy to use. And even as a street rider you will definitely notice the better ride quality from tubs.

this is my experience exactly

asm · 17th August 2008

I am an occasional tub rider on the front as well. I tend not to do it often, due to high wind and general paranoia, but it's the wind that get's me more than anything else..!

jeanmi · 17th August 2008

this is tub.

this is cheap.

a coincidence i saw this and this in the same internet sitting....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Spinergy-front...d=p3286.c0.m14

Multi Grooves · 17th August 2008

is the blade tapped up?

asm · 17th August 2008

£45? That is slightly worrying

h2o · 17th August 2008

It's a Spinergy. Spinergies are slightly worrying.

hippy · 17th August 2008

No mention of size? 650C? They are dodgy wheels :)

VelocityBoy · 17th August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Multi Grooves

is the blade tapped up?

Magnet for speedo.

SOAR · 20th August 2008

Quick report on the Tufo tub self-sealant liquid. Pumped up the back tyre really hard today, predictably got a puncture within 20 mins - the first one in 8 months. It self-sealed, after I had pulled out offending bit of glass, only losing about 30-40psi. Which was nice.

16th August 2008	#1
dorr	Tubular came off... ouch riding back from few drinks last night and my front tub came off the rim on a corner and i slammed hard, could have been a lot worse though...it was quite an old tire and old glue, anyone have any experiences like this or do i just need some new glue/tape/tyre ??
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16th August 2008	#2
hippy	People ride tubs without knowing how to install them?? http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...e+Search&meta=
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16th August 2008	#7
Sano	I carry a spare tub. Fuck sitting by the side of the road with a scalpel, needles and a reel of cotton. I look stupid enough on my clown bike as it is.
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16th August 2008	#10
Merak	Nasty. Was it like this? Beloki was proper fucked after that, never the same again :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_8m5-sR6I4
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16th August 2008	#12
the-smiling-buddha	I fill my tubs with latex and intown I carry a spanner extra latex and a pump enough to get me home unless I have a really big cut out on the road I carry a spare tub I have had my tubs since january and have yet to puncture I use tufo tape and corner hard
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16th August 2008	#16
winston	I inflate my track tubs to 180psi...they will go higher. part of what holds the tub on is the pressure....so going back to the original post...maybe presure was low or a slow puncture. when not riding for a while deflate your tubs but leave enough pressure in for them to keep their shape..otherwise they'll pull away from the rim....tubs that have been left deflated for a long time may not be very well attached!
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17th August 2008	#18
winston	coz everyone else does!....but probably to reduce the stress on the stitching when they're not being used? but the main reason i do it is i generally store my bike at HH in a sea container...of which I have no control over the temperature...they get very hot in the summer=popped tubs if you leave them at race pressure.
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17th August 2008	#23
SOAR	I think tubs are easier to use now than they ever have been. I have ridden Tufo S3s for the last 8 months with no punctures. Use their self-repairing puncture liquid and Tufo extreme tub tape and you are away. Tufos have a pretty crap reputation with Time Trialers for their perceived high rolling resistance, but for street and/or amateur road racing they are really easy to use. And even as a street rider you will definitely notice the better ride quality from tubs.
	quote reply

17th August 2008	#26
jeanmi	this is tub. this is cheap. a coincidence i saw this and this in the same internet sitting.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Spinergy-front...d=p3286.c0.m14
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17th August 2008	#27
Multi Grooves	is the blade tapped up?
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20th August 2008	#32
SOAR	Quick report on the Tufo tub self-sealant liquid. Pumped up the back tyre really hard today, predictably got a puncture within 20 mins - the first one in 8 months. It self-sealed, after I had pulled out offending bit of glass, only losing about 30-40psi. Which was nice.
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