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Old 14th August 2008   #1
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Toe overlap

So what do you do about toe overlap on the road?

Riding about is fine, but track standing is devilishly difficult when you can only turn so much. Do you just have to learn to turn the opposite way, or switch which foot goes at the front or is there some other unobvious knack?

Cheers all...
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Old 14th August 2008   #2
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If you're trackstanding with right foot forward then have the front wheel turning right = no toe overlap.
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Old 14th August 2008   #3
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Don't trackstand with your feet on a horizontal plane. Dominant foot up a bit so it's closer to level with your downtube.
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Old 14th August 2008   #4
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cut your toes off?

i had issues with toe overlap when i first started riding fixed.. but i seem to have gotten used to it now. having size 12 feet doesnt help.

but yeh.. if your right foot is forward, your front wheel should be turned to the right as well = no overlap
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Old 14th August 2008   #5
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Shit your leg off
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Old 14th August 2008   #6
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I've been riding fixed for about 4 years or so, so I'm pretty into my habits - left foot forward, turn right. I just recently started to ride on the road with a much tighter bike than I have done previously and it has put my off my stride a bit. Riding, what is in my head, switch, is gonna take some getting used to.

I put my bag on the opposite shoulder to most everyone else too. Stupid brain.
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Old 14th August 2008   #7
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my bag is set up left handed.... but yeh, get your forward foot/front wheel sorted!

otherwise run a 650 on the front/shorter cranks?
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Old 14th August 2008   #8
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put the other foot forward when you trackstand???
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Old 14th August 2008   #9
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So what do you do about toe overlap on the road?
Riding about is fine, but track standing is devilishly difficult when you can only turn so much. Do you just have to learn to turn the opposite way, or switch which foot goes at the front or is there some other unobvious knack?
Cheers all...
Overlap is not a problem..
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Old 14th August 2008   #10
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Instead of risking overlap,simply rest your foot on the ground.
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Old 14th August 2008   #11
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Brilliant
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Old 14th August 2008   #12
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"Put the other foot forward" is, for me, a lot easier said than done and turning the opposite way is just as bad. It is like trying to learn to skate switch when, as a totally fine skater you had to re-learn how to ollie and looked like an idiot who could barely make it up a curb.

I realised that those were the most obvious solutions but I just thought there might be another trick (other than losing limbs). It is just so frustrating I can trackstand for as long as I want on my everyday bike but have no confidence on my good bike. God damn you track geometry!
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Old 14th August 2008   #13
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http://www.londonfgss.com/search.php?searchid=636411

^ I aksed this question a while back.

The normal way to track stand is with your leading foot forward (as in the foot you prefer to skid with, normally the dominant side of your body) with the wheel tilted to whichever side that is.

ie for me, I trackstand with my right foot forward, with my front wheel tilted to the right. therefore the wheel never comes close to the leading pedal.

I don't think I've ever met someone who does it your way, with the wheel crossing the leading foot... surely you'd find it easier... your'e essentially doing it switch at the moment, you goofy fool!
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Old 14th August 2008   #14
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http://www.londonfgss.com/search.php?searchid=636411

^ I aksed this question a while back.

The normal way to track stand is with your leading foot forward (as in the foot you prefer to skid with, normally the dominant side of your body) with the wheel tilted to whichever side that is.

ie for me, I trackstand with my right foot forward, with my front wheel tilted to the right. therefore the wheel never comes close to the leading pedal.

I don't think I've ever met someone who does it your way, with the wheel crossing the leading foot... surely you'd find it easier... your'e essentially doing it switch at the moment, you goofy fool!
Goofy fool though I am, I think all the BMX riders I know would consider right foot back, left foot forward regular. It's the back foot that does the work for hopping and stuff. When you skate regular you put your left foot at the front. And to trackstand you want the bike to be rolling up the camber of the road, ergo, in the UK, turning to the right. It matters not I suppose, so long as it isn't called mungo
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Old 14th August 2008   #15
asm
fair point. well, some tips to increase the gap between toe and wheel:

1) get shorter length cranks (165mm as opposed to 170)
2) go clipless (this worked for me)
3) buy forks with more rake
4) fit a 650c front wheel
5) angle feet down to reduce their profile against the wheel (this also works well)
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Old 14th August 2008   #16
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Goofy fool though I am, I think all the BMX riders I know would consider right foot back, left foot forward regular. It's the back foot that does the work for hopping and stuff.
I ride my bmx right foot back, and twist towards the right. On a fixed wheel i track stand and skid with the right foot forward and tilt to the right.
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Old 14th August 2008   #17
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Just take a taxi everywhere. I never get toe overlap in Lundun's famous black cabs.
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Old 14th August 2008   #18
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Just take a taxi everywhere. I never get toe overlap in Lundun's famous black cabs.
even with the rear-facing seats folded down and occupied?
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