i don't know quite what has gone wrong on this forum.
i am beginning to get fed up with the unnecessary flaming of new guys/girls.
how do they know how to use a "search" button???
they have come on here through google or recomended.
getting their bikes slagged off. fuck me it's a fucking cycle not a car.
they are just asking for help most of the time.
so what if they haven't been on a "social" ride or drinks.
they are more likely to, if they did recieve a warmer welcome.
a lot of riders out there, have been riding for years, and don't use this place.

also as tynan said yesterday, about new people coming on here, first posting and selling stuff, they are selling to a market we are providing.
if they offered something up i was after or wanted, i wouldn't give a fuck, i'd just buy it.
they also have searched and found us.

both these types of people, do not know the so called "forum etiquette"there is not FAQ.
alot of people on here, have asked some so called "dumb" questions, when they first came here. so what???

it is getting boring.

and yeah, i'm as good as taking the piss as most. when necessary.

and breath.....

my first rant is over.

+ millions. Good post.

reped

+1 Good point, well made. We all started somewhere. ;)

This has been discussed before.

Just use the fucking search, you lazy cunt.

No offence.

I fully agree with that, to be honest telling someone to search for the OTP thread etc in a friendly and welcoming way does not take a second....
Over..

+1

well done mate, very calm ranting there... FFS! :-P
I havent been on for 2 weeks and not missed it too much really. (only the banter) The flaming reactions you mention are varied and sometimes boring blots on my forum experience. I've been guilty of it too.
I can't always love, and sometimes understand the hate, but if you don't have anything nice to say etc. etc.
Sometimes I think that we need VB back to tell us all how to act. (< not a joke!)

Well said Murtle. +1

well said murts, i have slagged people off for selling shit before, but i also apologised for being a prick.

Another thing is, if someone suggests "Try the search function", the best thing to do is also post a link to some useful search results!!

+1

Good post murtle. A lot of the 1st time posts about OTP bikes are asking for help when choosing between 2 specific bikes - so the poster has done a bit of research already and wants help in making a comparison - nothing wrong with that.

Murtle, I'm worried tho, you coming over all soft and gentle?

Still, as flaming seems somewhat inevitable, it could be construed as fair to kick it off as soon as possible. Wouldn't want anyone being lulled into a false sense of security.

fuck off :p

Aah, that's better

I blame shinscar, the forum went down hill the moment he joined.

Why don't you use the newfangled forum tools to start a social group of 'nice people' who are honour-bound to be nice on the forum. that would work. right?
I liked it when the insults were always funny..

Nice one murtle, what about the racists though?

Ray's cysts? rotten.

yeh and when 'e's' were e's. also everything seemed BIGGER.

Will someone help me measure my inside leg?

Keep ray out of it, he gets enough copy.

this isn't prison prav.

Ahh, yeah.
Non intentional - :)

cock-off!

put it back on then, you don't want it ending up in the dog with your balls

I personally the search feature is good with...

no of threads:
Bikes and bits -2049
Mechs & fixing - 1181
Rides & races - 465
forum help - 111
etc.

and a total of 9210 threads
and 258396 posts

BUT...
newbs just dont know what to search for... i agree we should and we have been pointing people in the right direction...with the classic response use the search feat. and a link. I think this is going to be inevitable. We should learn to hold our finger (tongues).

As i joined in October i've learnt a lot...
The older members have seen the community grow... and faced thousands of silly posts.

It is a community after all... we should be welcoming no matter what the question as murtle says
I for one am cutting down on flaming and anything i see a suspicious will be reporting.

...right last bit.

This forum is an amazing resource if you cant find the answer on here via a thread or a post its really not worth knowing. Being part of the community now i can PM my silly questions to the people i have met on here, ie know the man with the right answer for you and pick his brain.

as said before...
We all start somewhere.

"Yeah I saw that post and sort of skimmed through it, but what I really want is some quality attention on me. I want to publicly receive all of your well thought out and oft-repeated opinions about tedious anal decision making over what colour to powdercoat my lockring, and I need to know exactly what you think will be the physiological outcome of choosing either a 16 or a 17 tooth sprocket based on your lifelong experiences. Then I'll just dismiss these insights, or selectively ignore them, and spout some insipid drivel about 'lovin' the fixie scene' and 50x14 being 'too spinny' and start a new thread asking where I can buy some spds or if anyone can just give me a set of NOS Cinelli drops."

well said ray

I am with BMMF on this one. If you recall, some one asked a question about bouncing in his saddle. BMMF put up a fantastic answer, including information about how to pedal correctly.

The cock totally ignored BMMF's post, and continued to dribble about frame angles.

Rant? You call that a rant? Why don't you search the forum for some proper rants, and come back when you have worked up a decent one.

What do you want from me, Bill?

:p