Right. Straight to the point. I am getting discomfort in what can only be described as the pubic bone area after a couple of hours on my geared bike. A definite shrinkage of manhood allied with unnerving numbness.

Incidentally I have an Arione on the geared bike and old skool flites on my other bikes.

Has anyone else had similar problems? Is saddle angle a personal thing? I havent really encountered this before.

I have always had my saddles dead level set with a bead. I think I might try and angle the nose down a bit.

The Arione is new to me but comfortable in every other area.

If you have no problem using the Flite. Put a Flite on the bike.

but dont you have yours angled straight up?

Only when I'm ramming it in your arse.

Yep thought about that, I like the Arione though. Perhaps its Physiology. The Arione is dead flat tip to tail whereas the Flite is kind of contoured.

I will have a go at the tipping the nose slightly then revert to the Flite if I have no joy.

yeah try tipping it up alittle... and also getting it so the hardest part of you arse is on the hardest part of the saddle. I've got a little boney arse... and recently got a brooks... which was originally, how do i put it............... FUCKING AGONY... but after moving the saddle back a bit its alllll good!

I've got an Arione on one of my bikes and found that angling the front down slightly turned it from an uncomfortable saddle into the most comfortable saddle I've ever ridden.

on another note i have a nitto seat post and its bloody fantastic for setting angles...just wanted to throw that out there. tiny little thing but great.

Let us know how you get on - I too am very happy on my flites but am curious to try the Arione sometime, just to see what it's like and see what all the fuss is about. Have you tried the aliante too? Apparently v.similar in curvature to a flite.

Also, aside from angle, have you got the saddle height right? An old bike I once had came with a nasty flat-ish saddle and that did similar things to my bits - in the end, dropping the saddle 5mm made all the difference. But not enough to stop me replacing it after a couple of months!

Courant

i have a black Arione for sale, just £20, you heard me, £20

If I had a penny for every time I've used that in conversation..............

Just the kind of feedback I was looking for. I will give that a go.

I haven't heard of the Aliante, will check it out. I will let you know how I get on with the different position of the Arione.



How dare you! peddling your wares on my post :)

Hmmm, interesting. Seriously?! How many miles has it seen?

Courant

Murtle's? I thought you liked it?

saddles should be perfectly horizontal, do it with a spirit level to be sure!


If its uncomfortable, handle bar reach, saddle height, frame size etc are to blame!

Sit on saddle, feet on pedals. Cranks horizontal. Hang a piece of string from the top of your Tibia, it should line up vertically with the pedal spindle.

If it doesnt you need to slide your seat foward or backward.

Sounds like a sermon.

Sermon on the mount, init.

no idea. i did about 50 on it. it's in decent condition

i did. i very gaily bought another one that matches my bike.

He should've given it to me.. I would've dished it out some proper abuse.

As for the poster above, saddles _don't_ have to be dead flat. It's just a good starting point.
Also KOPS (knee over pedal spindle) where you do that plum bob thing is also just a bit of a bodged starting point.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/kops.html

Let the bidding war commence!

If Courant bails I'll have it.

Saddles are totally horses for courses. One man's meat is another's poison. Personally I'm all about the cut-out. Fizik say they are bad for you. Toupe's are, in my opinion, awesome, Turbo's awful. I'm sure the popularity of the turbo would suggest others disagree. Hippy's right. They don't have to be level but it is a good starting point. Brooks generally ride a bit better a bit nose up, Rolls a bit nose down.
Your weight should be on your sit bones and fairly little elsewhere, it sometimes helps to sit a bit further back than one might naturally do. That plumb bob/patella/spindle equation will do a lot for pain elsewhere, but I imagine, little for saddle discomfort. Also more than a 8-10inch drop from saddle to bars is from a medical standpoint getting into danger territory if you fancy riding very far and keeping your girlfriend. This is slightly different on TT style scenarios where pressure on the pedals takes it off the saddle.
The nose down a bit may offer some relief but if I remember rightly fiziks are pretty flat and smooth which means one will be prone to sliding forward which is no good for efficiency, comfort, or the @rse of your shorts.
If the flites fit, stick with them, try your mate's saddles and ask if your shop has lenders, some more race oriented shops will have a box full of try outable seats. A seatpost which is infinitely adjustable (as opposed to ones with a toothed gripping head) is a must IMHO and good shorts make a world of difference as well. Sorry for such a long winded answer.

Damn you and your apostrophe knowlede Platini. I knew that didnt look right.:)

Knowledge, didn't (sometimes they are needed...)
;-)

it's not new, i got it off murtle first. it's fine though, very serviceable.

Rep :)

nimhbus, game on, I'll just send you a PM.

Courant

SOLD


the Official LGFSS Arione continues it's epic journey

Ffs!
;-)

Pay attention to stretching the hip flexors. Too much tension there brings the pelvis into anterior tilt, bringing the pubis down onto the saddle...

it's true, they say the Arione breaks in bit on the flexy bits. the LGFSS arione was a bit more comfy than my brand new one for this reason.

oooh I wonder when I will get to have it... and how much it will cost!? I might get it for the price of some pork scratchings in 2011...