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Old 9th August 2008   #1
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1"1/8, 0 rake integrated forks.

it might be asking too much, but does anyone know where I can get a pair I assume this is what new track bikes will come with but I can't seem to find any after market options.
Sorry I haven't been around for ages I haven't had the Internet at home for an age because bt is basically Hitler.
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Old 10th August 2008   #2
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it might be asking too much, but does anyone know where I can get a pair I assume this is what new track bikes will come with but I can't seem to find any after market options.
Zero rake will have very slow handling (stable but not very responsive) - I would think track bikes would avoid low rake geometry to maintain sharp steering ??
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Old 10th August 2008   #3
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i thought that a smaller rake meant more responsive handling
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Old 10th August 2008   #4
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in theory
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i thought that a smaller rake meant more responsive handling
more unstable
what frames it 4 anyway
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Old 10th August 2008   #5
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i thought that a smaller rake meant more responsive handling

A smaller rake will (assuming standard head tube angles) make the trail longer - making the steering less responsive / more stable.

The more trail a bike has, the more stable the steering.
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Old 10th August 2008   #6
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sorry not in agreement from my experience short rake more responsive less stable
but im no frame builder
SLACK the best place to look is parker.com
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Old 11th August 2008   #7
broken_777
slack: i dont think youll get anything in carbon like this.......only custom steel........but it wont be rideable unless it goes with the frame cuz the front wheel will be so close to the frame the overlap will be fatal:-)...road forks have 45mm ...track forks say 38mm......zero rake means 45/38 mm more overlapping......you want that for barspins with 700 wheel??:-)

and less rake in milimeters/ less angle on the fork crown towards the steerer means the wheel is closer to the center of the frame which means shorter wheelbase which means less stable....hm...rocket science at its best
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Old 11th August 2008   #8
Brucy
+1
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Old 11th August 2008   #9
kerley
Might be worth a look at this http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/20...le-bit-of.html
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Old 11th August 2008   #10
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sorry not in agreement from my experience short rake more responsive less stable

No !

Less rake means more trail which increases the wheels stability.

Look for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle...cycle_geometry

"A higher mechanical trail is known to make a bicycle easier to ride "no hands" and thus more subjectively stable . . . "
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Old 11th August 2008   #11
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and less rake in milimeters/ less angle on the fork crown towards the steerer means the wheel is closer to the center of the frame which means shorter wheelbase which means less stable....hm...rocket science at its best
The increase in trail from reducing rake has a far greater effect on the bikes geometry than the reduction in wheelbase.
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Old 11th August 2008   #12
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+1

"Less fork rake, increases trail"

"Trail also assists the bike in holding a straight line."
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Old 12th August 2008   #13
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cool bike nerdery
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