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Old 6th August 2008   #1
jaygee
 
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Stripped Phil front hub axel. Fixable?



When I was servicing my bike tonight,I could not get both nuts loose, and after messing about with 2 allen keys, finally got the wheel off. After a little investigation. I noticed the above.

Not sure how it happened. Besides removing the wheel, I have never messed with the hub at all. I have noticed that the wheel has been difficult to remove and tighten before, with the axle turning in place rather than the nuts tightening.

Anybody seen this before? Are replacement axles available?

The wheel still runs like butter.
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Old 6th August 2008   #2
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yes replacements are available, contact phil at his website, should be an easy swap.
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Old 6th August 2008   #3
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I'm confused because my Phils involve allen key cap-head bolts that go into the axle
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Old 6th August 2008   #4
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Cheers Chris, I sent a mail to Phil Wood. I was wondering how this could have happened.
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Old 6th August 2008   #5
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Originally Posted by adoubletap View Post
I'm confused because my Phils involve allen key cap-head bolts that go into the axle
Yeah. Mine too. What has stripped, is the thread on the outside of axle. There is another steel nut (the one on the left of the picture), which screws over the alloy axel.

The allen key cap-head bolts then screw into the inside thread of the axle.
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Old 7th August 2008   #6
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the hub fine it's just the holding cone on the inside. it'd just tighten it slowly.
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Old 7th August 2008   #7
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BC have some spare Phil bits (axles etc.), they sold me some Phil allen bolts and fittings recently when I re-spaced my rear... Speak to Ross, tell 'im Joe sentcha!
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Old 7th August 2008   #8
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The thread is really mashed Dogs, no hope of ever getting the end cap to screw on. It takes for a few turns, then just slides up. As I said, I can ride it, but if I need to take the wheel off, I need 2 allen keys and a bit of patience.

Had an email from Phil waiting in my inbox this morning. They are scratching their heads as to how it could happen. I'm gonna take it in to Brixton and get a replacement axle and cap (ordered), possibly under warranty.
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Old 7th August 2008   #9
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my guess is that the cap wasn't on tight, then the opposite side was biting the spinning that side, eventually killing thread. how often you take the front wheel off?!?
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Old 7th August 2008   #10
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Cavendish also have some phil spares in "The Cabinet"
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Old 7th August 2008   #11
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Just spoke to Ross at Brixton. We came to the conclusion that the cap had come loose, and that when I tightened up the bolts, I just mashed the threads on the cap (flexes muscles).

I clean my bike every week or so. This involves taking the front wheel off to shine the flange (snigger). Never realised that the axle caps were loose.

Some lessons are expensive...

TODAY'S LESSON:
Phil Wood axle caps sometimes come loose. When servicing your bike, remember to check these and tighten them (if necessary) using an 8mm allen key before putting the wheel back and tightening the track bolts.

Last edited by jaygee; 7th August 2008 at 10:14.. Reason: added lesson
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Old 7th August 2008   #12
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echo...
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Old 7th August 2008   #13
jaygee
 
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rodger... rodger...
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Old 7th August 2008   #14
dogsballs
 
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surely..
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Old 7th August 2008   #15
jaygee
 
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Might be a sign for me to get my DAs laced up.
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Old 7th August 2008   #16
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well if you're gonna chuck out the phils.......
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