People with full custom frames - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

gizmond · 31st July 2008

How much do these kind of things usually cost, just spoke to a nice frame builder about getting a full custom, curved tube (top and seat) fillet brazed columbus slx, spirt or life track frame build just for me. Just wondering how much others have paid, seems quite a bit, he says somewhere between 600-750, depending.

Gustav · 31st July 2008

depends on the tubing...Bob Jackson customs start at 450 but can readily go up with better tubing, chromed lugs etc. Not sure where slx fits in terms of goodness/badness but a lot would probably depend on that

vinylvillain · 31st July 2008

I think that the price he quoted is pretty good given the curvy tube element - if it includes paint its even better - the BJ's at 450 arent really full custom, just them moving the settings around on a machine - a hand built custom frame with decent tubing can easily cost upwards of 1000 quid.

Jacqui · 31st July 2008

I'd say that if you were getting something in the 753 range for that price, but then the last frame I had built was 4 years ago...

dogsballs · 31st July 2008

$US975 inc custom powdercoat and delivery, very similar to what u r after

General Lucifer · 31st July 2008

Bob Jackson customs aren't built on a machine. They're hand made.

gizmond · 31st July 2008

Cool, think its near top end Columbus, stuff. That's fully painted, ready to go, he said he will fit the headset for me too so I just need to throw bits on an ride. Yeah that's full custom i.e go there, have some measurements taken and have a chat about how I want it to be etc.

Anyone need a kidney?

MrSmith · 31st July 2008

for a good quality track frame that doesn't sound too bad, i guess depending on what velodrome you ride at you get to spec the bb height too, no point in having a really high bb if you only ride herne hill not calshot or manchester.

JOL · 31st July 2008

Is it FOR velodrome use Guy?

mr_tom · 31st July 2008

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Originally Posted by gizmond

How much do these kind of things usually cost

Typically, slightly more cash than one has to spend.

That quote doesn't sound out of the ball-park, TBH.

gizmond · 31st July 2008

Probably both and again probably both. I mentioned to him I will be some track some street maybe 50/50. Also mostly hh, but some dude at work goes down to calshot a couple of times a month, so I also mentioned that. Think its all very much what will work.

slx tubing is the old stuff, spirit is 725 area and life is 631 kind of equivalent

And also fillet adds a lot to the price, apparently takes loads longer than lugging.

Vinz · 31st July 2008

I paid $1150 for my custom Yamaguchi.

Dylan · 1st August 2008

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Originally Posted by General Lucifer

Bob Jackson customs aren't built on a machine. They're hand made.

all frames need a jig (what you call a machine) to hold the tubes aligned straight for brazing.

Marxist_fixie · 1st August 2008

Have you tried Steve Goff in Skelmersdale near Liverpool? He has a good reputation and does not cost the earth....he has remnants of 531SL...yes Special Lightweight and 753...find him on the web.....He got a positive mention a couple of months ago in Cycling Plus's frame builder article.

Marxist_fixie · 1st August 2008

And of course 531 Competition!...as well as the more modern tubes.

vinylvillain · 1st August 2008

Don Walker . . hes even a forum member!

General Lucifer · 1st August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan

all frames need a jig (what you call a machine) to hold the tubes aligned straight for brazing.

I agree, but it was said earlier that Bob Jackson's aren't true custom, as they are made on a machine. I think this was inferring that they're tig welded by a droid or something, when it's really a gnarly little dwarf with jig and roll up.

VanUden · 1st August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan

all frames need a jig (what you call a machine) to hold the tubes aligned straight for brazing.

Some frame builders don't use a jig, albeit not many.

dogsballs · 1st August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan

all frames need a jig (what you call a machine) to hold the tubes aligned straight for brazing.

urgh, a jig is not a machine, it holds the tubes.

VanUden · 1st August 2008

^ As much as I hate to say it, he's right you know.

And not all hand-made frames are built in jigs, from Ron Cooper's site:

Working from a mock-up of the customer's order on his drawing board, without a jig, and using traditional free hand brazing, he produces frames of superior strength and responsiveness.

squoocher · 1st August 2008

Don't bother with a custom frame, just sand your legs or arms down a few inches and get a nice Nagasawa frame off njs-keirin.blogspot.com and Bobitu san's your uncle!

gareth_lindsay · 1st August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vinz

I paid $1150 for my custom Yamaguchi.

You have any pictures of your yamaguchi?

Vinz · 2nd August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by gareth_lindsay

You have any pictures of your yamaguchi?

Im now waiting for it to arrive. It got sent on the 29th. Its black with matt black decals (It should be anyway!)

31st July 2008	#1
gizmond	People with full custom frames How much do these kind of things usually cost, just spoke to a nice frame builder about getting a full custom, curved tube (top and seat) fillet brazed columbus slx, spirt or life track frame build just for me. Just wondering how much others have paid, seems quite a bit, he says somewhere between 600-750, depending.
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MrSmith Blog Entries: 5	for a good quality track frame that doesn't sound too bad, i guess depending on what velodrome you ride at you get to spec the bb height too, no point in having a really high bb if you only ride herne hill not calshot or manchester.
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31st July 2008	#11
gizmond	Probably both and again probably both. I mentioned to him I will be some track some street maybe 50/50. Also mostly hh, but some dude at work goes down to calshot a couple of times a month, so I also mentioned that. Think its all very much what will work. slx tubing is the old stuff, spirit is 725 area and life is 631 kind of equivalent And also fillet adds a lot to the price, apparently takes loads longer than lugging. Last edited by gizmond; 31st July 2008 at 11:30.. Reason: Spelling and tubing and random info
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31st July 2008	#2
Gustav	depends on the tubing...Bob Jackson customs start at 450 but can readily go up with better tubing, chromed lugs etc. Not sure where slx fits in terms of goodness/badness but a lot would probably depend on that
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31st July 2008	#3
vinylvillain	I think that the price he quoted is pretty good given the curvy tube element - if it includes paint its even better - the BJ's at 450 arent really full custom, just them moving the settings around on a machine - a hand built custom frame with decent tubing can easily cost upwards of 1000 quid.
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31st July 2008	#4
Jacqui	I'd say that if you were getting something in the 753 range for that price, but then the last frame I had built was 4 years ago...
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31st July 2008	#5
dogsballs	$US975 inc custom powdercoat and delivery, very similar to what u r after
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31st July 2008	#6
General Lucifer	Bob Jackson customs aren't built on a machine. They're hand made.
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31st July 2008	#12
Vinz	I paid $1150 for my custom Yamaguchi.
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1st August 2008	#14
Marxist_fixie	Have you tried Steve Goff in Skelmersdale near Liverpool? He has a good reputation and does not cost the earth....he has remnants of 531SL...yes Special Lightweight and 753...find him on the web.....He got a positive mention a couple of months ago in Cycling Plus's frame builder article.
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1st August 2008	#20
VanUden	^ As much as I hate to say it, he's right you know. And not all hand-made frames are built in jigs, from Ron Cooper's site: Working from a mock-up of the customer's order on his drawing board, without a jig, and using traditional free hand brazing, he produces frames of superior strength and responsiveness.
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1st August 2008	#21
squoocher	Don't bother with a custom frame, just sand your legs or arms down a few inches and get a nice Nagasawa frame off njs-keirin.blogspot.com and Bobitu san's your uncle!
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