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Old 18th July 2008   #1
johan
 
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Phil hubs

I found a pair of unused phil hubs on ebay for £136 inc shipping.The back hub has freewheel & fixed and a width of 120mm and front hub is 100mm.

Isn't this quite cheap?

-j
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Old 18th July 2008   #2
johan
 
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ohh yeah, they have 8 pairs available.. if someone else wants to buy :)
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Old 18th July 2008   #4
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yeah can regularly get them at that price.
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Old 18th July 2008   #5
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Both Teensain (hope you don't mind the name drop dude) and I can attest to the fact that buying fixed/free phils is a big mistake. Once you start riding fixed, you will find the freewheel will sit and rust unused.
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Old 18th July 2008   #6
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plus, you can mount a freewheel on a fixed thread, but not vice versa.
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Old 18th July 2008   #7
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yeah I found universal cycles, so now I'm about to buy way to much stuff :)
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Old 18th July 2008   #8
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What jaygee said, flip flop hubs are a stupid idea seeing as you can run a freewheel on a fixed/fixed hub anyway... And then you get two sweet Phil lockrings... They're made of magic, those things...
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Old 18th July 2008   #9
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Treefort bikes will do fixed fixed as a special order, but I don't know if they like doing it, I was on the phone for about 20 minutes to get it sorted.

Fixed/Fixed is still a flipflop hub no? Thought flipflop was anything with 2 sides?

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/gloss_e-f.html#flipflop
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Old 18th July 2008   #10
Bernhard
Your correct Gizmond, flip flop hubs do indeed refer to being able to run gears on either side of the wheel whether it be fixed/free or fixed/fixed (go for fixed/fixed if poss, if you strip the thread on one side you will still have the thread on the other)
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Old 18th July 2008   #11
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yeah I found universal cycles, so now I'm about to buy way to much stuff :)
where? do tell!
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Old 18th July 2008   #12
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hmmmm, I thought that was flip-flip (or maybe flop-flop)?

I prefer the look of single sided hubs, cleaner.
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Old 18th July 2008   #13
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where? do tell!
erhhh http://www.universalcycles.com/ :)
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Old 18th July 2008   #14
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errhhhh thanks.
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Old 18th July 2008   #15
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hehe np :)
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Old 18th July 2008   #16
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Universal have discount codes too

VIP10 for 10% $100+ and VIP15 for 15% off $300

VIP15 worked for my Phils and S75 cranks before Xmas :)
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Old 18th July 2008   #17
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Discount codes! That's a thread that needs to be started immediately! Nice work, Steve... :)
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Old 18th July 2008   #18
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+1 about the thread of disocunts

there is one already for wiggle I think, but we can have one with all the shops
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Old 19th July 2008   #19
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Both Teensain (hope you don't mind the name drop dude) and I can attest to the fact that buying fixed/free phils is a big mistake. Once you start riding fixed, you will find the freewheel will sit and rust unused.
+ 1

I'm pissed off I have flip flop hub now... I'm going to have to build a new wheel with double fixed at some point when I have a bit more dosh...
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Old 19th July 2008   #20
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Also a victim of the the Phil flip/flop purchasing jinx but I now use the freewheel side for my track gearing (get her, been to HH four times and he's got a track gear ratio) with a load of Loctite and a BB lockring.
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Old 20th July 2008   #21
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So I've been looking at Dura Ace HB7600, and they look rather nice and sturdy. What is the "normal" price for these? I'm clueless (as usual).
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Old 20th July 2008   #22
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+ 1

I'm pissed off I have flip flop hub now... I'm going to have to build a new wheel with double fixed at some point when I have a bit more dosh...
whats wrong havin both ? ? ?
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Old 20th July 2008   #23
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whats wrong havin both ? ? ?
You have double fixed so you can have two different fixed cogs, as opposed to fixed/free. You can have road and track gearing if you ride fixed/fixed!
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Old 20th July 2008   #24
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So I've been looking at Dura Ace HB7600, and they look rather nice and sturdy. What is the "normal" price for these? I'm clueless (as usual).

pretty but they do not have sealed bearings.
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Old 20th July 2008   #25
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jus change the cogs then . . . then flipin it over . . .
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Old 20th July 2008   #26
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^ not as simple as that. I need double fixed.

The freewheel is of no use to me anymore.
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Old 21st July 2008   #27
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I bought the phils with freewheel/fixed. I never flip my current wheel over that has fixed/fixed. So I will probably not do it to much in the future. And it saved me a bundle of cash that I can spend on other fun things.
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Old 21st July 2008   #28
oleleo
That Universal cycles website emailed me back saying they will not mark anything as a gift or as an item of low value, so be warned you may get stung by customs.
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Old 21st July 2008   #29
johan
 
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I ordered them from e-bay instead. And he would mark them down and as a gift :)
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Old 22nd July 2008   #30
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You get 'em from some fella in Coney Island, Brooklyn?
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Old 22nd July 2008   #31
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yeah, twelveicat, on eBay, it's the guy you told me about pistin! Good deal, I escaped customs, can't remember if he marked it down or gift or what...
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Old 22nd July 2008   #32
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stop- just one think about universale cycles; i bought a pair of 32 holes phils on ebay , and a 17 th. cog on ebay-----they send a 28 holes front- and a 36 hole rear hub--------the cog wasn´t available-so i had to wait 6 weeks for the cog and to pay two times shipping to germany- what a fuck..........
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Old 22nd July 2008   #33
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yeah, twelveicat, on eBay, it's the guy you told me about pistin! Good deal, I escaped customs, can't remember if he marked it down or gift or what...
Yeah, that's the fella, mine arrived in about a week too, no customs charges either :-)
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Old 22nd July 2008   #34
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the gift scam is a complete lottery...
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Old 22nd July 2008   #35
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how much is custom charge anyway?
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Old 22nd July 2008   #36
Ved
 
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Depends what they feel like! 20 - 30% of the marked value, from my experience...

Last edited by Ved; 22nd July 2008 at 19:10. Reason: juss 4 fun
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Old 22nd July 2008   #37
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no, it's VAT they charge you. 17.5 percent.
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