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Old 17th July 2008   #1
oblique
Clipless pedals

I am fairly new to fixed riding but ride mtb's. i have been using some old egg beaters but have had some problems with them popping out. i have two pairs of riding shoes one with egg beaters cleats in and on road pair with look cleets in. I know quite a few people on here have had allot of luck with spd's but i don't want to have to keep swapping cleats in and out of shoes to ride different bikes.

So my question is, what are look pedals like for fixed riding? do they tend to pop out with too much up pressure?

cheers.
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Old 17th July 2008   #2
Cuppa T
 
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i ride lake shoes with SPD and they work fine for me.
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Old 17th July 2008   #3
50/14
 
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For London I prefer Time, narrower drop, easier when near the curb un clipped.
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Old 17th July 2008   #4
gizmond
 
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+1 for time atac (well +2 really as I got them on 2 bikes)
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Old 17th July 2008   #5
Emilia
 
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Oh, hmmmm, I was thinking about changing over to eggbeaters. Are they not all that then?
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Old 17th July 2008   #6
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The Majestic Bebop.
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Old 17th July 2008   #7
oblique
normally egg beaters would be fine but this set are quite worn so have become a bit lose.

curb clearance is not a problem as this gets ridden in the empty roads of the Yorkshire mores.

My choice is getting a new set of egg beaters or look keo's as i don't want to get a new set of shoes or swap cleats when using different bikes.
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Old 17th July 2008   #8
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oblique - Get some premium eggbeater cleats - made of a harder material than those which come with the pedals and so last longer.
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Old 17th July 2008   #9
Courant
oblique - don't have looks but a set of time impact road pedals (very similar system to the looks). No problems at all with them, they work great on fixed.

However, check which cleat you have before forking out for a pair of keo pedals (if that's what you decide to do) - older look cleats and those for the newer keos look very similar but are incompatible (the keos are smaller, IIRC).

If you're riding road, I'd probably go with the looks, I've heard eggbeaters give you hotspots when riding for longer periods. Alternatively, virtually any road pedal cleat system will be compatible with your road shoes (you just unscrew the cleat and screw the new one in, and the cost of the cleat compared to the pedal is small, so you're not losing much by changing the cleat) so you're not constrained to just the looks. Again, I highly recommend Time road pedals! This guy knows his stuff: http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/fea...xspedals.shtml


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Old 17th July 2008   #10
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i use look and haven't had any problems.
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Old 17th July 2008   #11
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The combination that have the best review around here are MTB shoes with Time ATAC cleats and Time ATAC pedals. I initially started off on Road shoes with SPD-SL (like Look) cleats. I've heard that SPDs (the MTB ones) are easy to clip out because of the multi-release. Also egg-beaters are meant to be easy to clip out of (this is only a consideration if you're skidding). MTB shoes are easier to walk in but my road shoes and SPD-SLs seemed fine for float and clipping out. I never had premature de-cliption with my SPD-SLs. If you've already got road shoes and Look cleats/pedals I'd say just stick with them until you notice yourself clipping out too easily. If you don't. Don't change. If you do. MTB shoes and Time ATAC cleats are the best solution.

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Old 17th July 2008   #12
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yeah yeah!
mtb shoes and time atacs all the way!
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Old 17th July 2008   #13
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indeed!
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Old 17th July 2008   #14
h2o
If the eggbeaters are dead, you can probably pick up a set of time atacs and appropriate cleats for slightly less than a new set of eggbeaters would have cost.
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Old 17th July 2008   #15
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look keo pedals/cleats are great on road bikes and there's no reason why they wouldn't be just as good on fixed. you don't generate any more upward pressure on a fixed than on a road bike...

so if you have Looks already on another of your bikes then stick with them EXCEPT if you want to walk in the shoes. if that's a consideration, maybe look at SPDs or Time aliums which are very popular here.

i ride SPDs on my fixed and have only ever pulled out a couple of times due to the pedal tension needing to be tightened (i'm a bit slack with maintenance).
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Old 18th July 2008   #16
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I've only used SPDs and Eggbeaters, but my vote goes to the beaters because I find them easier (and much smoother) to clip out of, which is useful when some prick pedestrian steps out in front of you. That said, I don't go in for bunny hops and backflips.
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Old 18th July 2008   #17
Will_s87
I've got some egg beaters I pop out once a day. Its pain in the ass.

That said, I am using some homemade cleats....

Last edited by Will_s87; 18th July 2008 at 07:25.. Reason: lack
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Old 18th July 2008   #18
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@Will: Homemade cleats? How did you craft them?
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Old 18th July 2008   #19
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if you make sure you have the eggbeater cleats the right way round on the shoes ( one way is easier to unclip, swap them round and it's harder), unclipping is not an issue, i reckon - as long as your cleats aren't worn.
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Old 18th July 2008   #20
haj
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I've heard that SPDs (the MTB ones) are easy to clip out because of the multi-release.
If people insist on using SPDs wrong then they'll not work.. first: don't use cleats with M-marking (M for multirelease), second: tighten down the tension screw at least a full turn, and third: make sure you have adjusted the angle of the cleat on your shoe so that you don't get to "clip out angle" without wanting to..

I have had 3 unclips i didn't want on my SPDs since starting using them, first was due to a wrongly adjusted cleat + too loose tension on the pedal (at least that's what i suspect), second was because a small stone stuck on the shoe by the cleat had blocked the cleat from being securely locked in, third i don't know, but i changed the pretty worn cleats and have not had problems since..

Skid all the time, run brakeless, and 48x17 gear, about 75 GI.
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Old 18th July 2008   #21
jashburnham
I use speedplay zeros on the roadbike, not popped out once in the 2 years I've used em. Lovely pedal cleat combo.
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Old 18th July 2008   #22
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If people insist on using SPDs wrong then they'll not work.. first: don't use cleats with M-marking (M for multirelease), second: tighten down the tension screw at least a full turn, and third: make sure you have adjusted the angle of the cleat on your shoe so that you don't get to "clip out angle" without wanting to..

I have had 3 unclips i didn't want on my SPDs since starting using them, first was due to a wrongly adjusted cleat + too loose tension on the pedal (at least that's what i suspect), second was because a small stone stuck on the shoe by the cleat had blocked the cleat from being securely locked in, third i don't know, but i changed the pretty worn cleats and have not had problems since..

Skid all the time, run brakeless, and 48x17 gear, about 75 GI.
Thats great, but what shoes and clips are you using?

What I didn't mention is that once I've cycled to work, I walk around all day in them. So my cleats are worn to fuck.
I got some brass, then just cut out the same profile as the eggbeater cleats, they were fucking tight to start with, they have loosened up now.
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Old 29th August 2008   #23
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I couldn't find a more appropriate thread and didn't want to start a new one, so.......

I saw a bike recently with interesting looking pedals. It looked like normal SPDs on one side, but the other side had a see-through flat plastic platform. Does anybody know what pedals these were? It looked like a good compromise for SPD clips and flat pedal riding (for non-cycle shoe use).
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Old 29th August 2008   #24
mark
Not plastic, but Shimano do some single sided SPDs at least:

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/Cycle/7/Sh...ls/5360031862/

They sound a bit awkward to me though? Dunno
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Old 29th August 2008   #25
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Not the same one I saw. I think they might have been on a Cannondale, and maybe it was a road bike or a hybrid. A lot smaller and neater than the SPD pedal your highlighted. Thanks though...............the search continues.
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Old 29th August 2008   #26
hamster
i used to have these black plastic platforms that clipped into a double-sided pedal (M520?)
only problem there is that they weighed that side of the pedal downwards, so that if you ever did want to use them it was difficult (or maybe just annoying) to flip the pedal the right way up.

Like this:

Last edited by hamster; 29th August 2008 at 10:29.. Reason: added pic
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Old 29th August 2008   #27
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The ones you have shown are very similar. But the fit was tighter, and the plastic was blu-ish/see-thru. Cheers though hamster.You don't happen to work with a "J.Clarkson"; do you?

Last edited by GA2G; 1st September 2008 at 03:16..
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Old 29th August 2008   #28
JDB
Ha ha, those black plastic clip-ons are for shop demo rides on bikes with clipless peddles, your not supposed to leave them on. I know in Australia a bike sold in a bike shop is supposed to have reflectors front and back, and on wheels and pedals so this is a way of getting around it.
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Old 29th August 2008   #29
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Ahhhhhhh! Makes sense. Good call. Repped.
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Old 29th August 2008   #30
haj
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Thats great, but what shoes and clips are you using?
What I didn't mention is that once I've cycled to work, I walk around all day in them. So my cleats are worn to fuck.
I got some brass, then just cut out the same profile as the eggbeater cleats, they were fucking tight to start with, they have loosened up now.
I use Shimano-shoes, the RT-ones (i think theres only one kind of those) and M038's.
And i think I used to use the 51-cleats...

Actually I just switched to Time Atac's because I had some unclips during skidding.. I guess it was mostly because of a worn cleat, but I had some money to spend so went for Time's and they are very nice.
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Old 31st August 2008   #31
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It seems like hamster and JDB, were both correct. I went back to the same shop today, and took photos of the pedals I had asked about. Clearly, the "covers" can certainly be for demo purposes, so as not to scuff and scratch the clips; and also, if strong enough, it is then effectively a double-sided dual-purposed pedal. One side being, in this case Time Atac (I was wrong, it wasn't spuds at all), and the other side being a flat platform for regular shoes.
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Old 31st August 2008   #32
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The bike in the photo is a Pinnacle single speed. It did look good, as did the red Capo fixed bike in the window.

More money, thats what I need.
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Old 2nd September 2008   #33
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Oh, hmmmm, I was thinking about changing over to eggbeaters. Are they not all that then?

I've riden with egg beaters for a while and find them to be pretty useless when ridning fixed, far to easy to become unclipped.. so much so i've ditched them and gone back to the old faithful SPD's..
Apparently the very expensive egg beaters work better, but i've been told by a mate who rides the Ti ones that they need to be rebuilt and replaced very regularly, and so become very costly to run..
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Old 2nd September 2008   #34
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GA2G those are eggbeaters not atacs. Very different things.
As Dandy Horse points out above eggbeaters are shit.

Atacs are most definitely not shit.
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Old 2nd September 2008   #35
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