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Old 18th June 2008   #1
GA2G
 
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The pen and the door closer

Obviously we're not legally allowed to carry weapons for self-defense. But if you were to be questioned by the OB on what item you used to defend yourself from a public attack, there are only 2 things I've ever carried, a pen (aim for bare skin), and a door-closer (temple shot is best).

What would/do you (hypothetically of course) carry?
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Old 18th June 2008   #2
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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?
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Old 18th June 2008   #3
GA2G
 
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Yes Tommy, exactly those, but smaller. The bigger side is very heavily weighted, and when swung with practice, can easily break most things it connects with. I used to carry one in my pocket.
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Old 18th June 2008   #4
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fare enough.
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Old 18th June 2008   #5
asm
ga2g, how on earth would you explain carrying a door closer around to the police? :P
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Old 18th June 2008   #6
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asm, as long as whatever it is that you used to defend yourself cannot be deemed to be a weapon carried for that purpose, then anything is fine. If I were askd, I'd say I needed to get a new one, and I was carrying it to show a lock shop the one I wanted. "Coincidence" that its heavy and metal. But no judge would say it was a weapon, of any type.

Women could carry salt in their pockets to throw at an attacker. The salt, being a natural product, could not be construed to be a weapon. The fact that salt in the eyes would make anyone have to stop what they're doing, so as to try to get the salt out, still can't be used against the "victim", as if they used a chemical attack on another person. Anyone can buy a small bag of salt, and keep it in their pockets.
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Old 18th June 2008   #7
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A lemon. In a sock.
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Old 18th June 2008   #8
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A correctly folded newspaper will do serious damage....
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Old 18th June 2008   #9
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asm, as long as whatever it is that you used to defend yourself cannot be deemed to be a weapon carried for that purpose, then anything is fine. If I were askd, I'd say I needed to get a new one, and I was carrying it to show a lock shop the one I wanted. "Coincidence" that its heavy and metal. But no judge would say it was a weapon, of any type.

Women could carry salt in their pockets to throw at an attacker. The salt, being a natural product, could not be construed to be a weapon. The fact that salt in the eyes would make anyone have to stop what they're doing, so as to try to get the salt out, still can't be used against the "victim", as if they used a chemical attack on another person. Anyone can buy a small bag of salt, and keep it in their pockets.

the bag of salt becomes a weapon if you carry if with the intention of using at a weapon.

It also depends on context; if someone came at you with a knife and you used your door closer, fair enough, reasonable force, but if they attacked you with a spoon: ya going down.

Best off using a yale key into an eye.
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Old 18th June 2008   #10
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a d-lock, no questions asked
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Old 18th June 2008   #11
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i'm abit more old school than that.
the chain on my wallet is on old bike chain. and when i'm riding i happen to have a spare with me.
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Old 18th June 2008   #12
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Preferably frozen in a Sainsbury's bag.
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Old 18th June 2008   #13
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apart from Hippy's arse, my fists are the most dangerous things in south london, I don't need weapons.

unless chuck norris is in town.
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Old 18th June 2008   #14
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(Not one for the weight weenies)

Last edited by justMouse; 18th June 2008 at 19:22.. Reason: Thought of a bon mot
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Old 18th June 2008   #15
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Just my rapier-like wit.
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Old 18th June 2008   #16
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why not just have a thread that says "how to commit GBH and get away with it"?
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Old 18th June 2008   #17
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an anvil??
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Old 18th June 2008   #18
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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The world is my weapon.
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Old 18th June 2008   #19
briankwan
d lock, seatpost?
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Old 18th June 2008   #20
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yeah, d-lock's all you'll ever need.
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Old 18th June 2008   #22
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...but if they attacked you with a spoon: ya going down.
I can see you've played knifey-spooney before
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Old 18th June 2008   #23
dogmatic
specialized wedlock
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Old 18th June 2008   #24
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.
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Old 19th June 2008   #25
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Old 19th June 2008   #26
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A: this is what HKLB stuffs down his jocks?
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Old 19th June 2008   #27
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last one there touches my ball?
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Old 19th June 2008   #28
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ooh er, it's soo big and hard!
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Old 19th June 2008   #29
villa-ru
 
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A couple of tyre levers. Deadly in the hands of a master.
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Old 19th June 2008   #30
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no one fucks with me since i started keeping a custard pie in my back pocket...
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Old 19th June 2008   #31
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those park ones...

nasty!
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Old 19th June 2008   #32
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I usually distract them with some balloon animals.



look closely and you'll see two yoots walking away empty handed.
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Old 19th June 2008   #33
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The pen and the door closer
Daft name for a pub...
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Old 19th June 2008   #34
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no one fucks with me since i started keeping a custard pie in my back pocket...
thats cause everyone thinks you have shit yourself
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Old 19th June 2008   #35
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i have a concealed carry permit, any legal hand gun, up to 12 rounds on my person, any thing legal in my vihical up to 20 rounds. and the permit was free.
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Old 19th June 2008   #36
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vihical
You want shooting for that alone...
;-)
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