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Old 13th June 2008   #1
asm
What's this reputation thing all about?

I noticed over the past few days that a little green square has appeared next to my name. At first I could see a green square next to everyone's names (every time they post), but now it's just my own, with a little link saying 'add to reputation'. How come I can only add to my own reputation?

I can see the green square in peoples' profiles, but nowhere to add reputation. I'm guessing this is some kind of work in progress?
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Old 14th June 2008   #2
dovoneil
 
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Must be a gay thing
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Old 14th June 2008   #3
VelocityBoy
 
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FAQ: http://www.londonfgss.com/faq.php?fa...vb3_reputation

It's part of a test, it's to do with how a community scales. It's built into vBulletin and I've enabled it just to see if it makes a positive difference in any way (as I'm also not sure of the point of it).
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Old 14th June 2008   #4
Archi Pelago
 
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there goes my reputation..... :)
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Old 14th June 2008   #5
31t®um
 
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Must be a gay thing
i got a pink triangle in mine?
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Old 14th June 2008   #6
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brown star
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Old 14th June 2008   #7
asm
so how do i add to someone's reputation?
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Old 14th June 2008   #8
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It takes time.

First you gotta start at the bottom, doing errands and general menial tasks, then you work your way up till you've got enough of a reputation to become a Made Man.
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Old 14th June 2008   #9
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but we can't add to anyones reputation. The green square is only by our own posts.

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How do I give reputation?
To give reputation, click on the reputation icon in the relevant post. This will reveal a form to complete with the reputation type and the reason for giving the reputation. If negative reputation is disabled then it will not be displayed in this form. You may not give reputation for the same post twice.
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Old 14th June 2008   #10
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Does it not say "add to reputation" beside the little green square when you're viewing posts?
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Old 14th June 2008   #11
d0cA
no, only when you're viewing your own posts.
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Old 14th June 2008   #12
d0cA
like - just added that last post of mine to my reputation and got a little pop-up message saying i did not have any reputation, but now i have 10 reputation points. gonna try that with this post too ;-)
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Old 14th June 2008   #13
d0cA
correction: it says "This post has not received any reputation. You currently have 10 reputation points." the green square and the message only appear on my own posts, not on anyone elses.
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Old 14th June 2008   #14
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Oops. Enabled for a week but hadn't given you permission to use it.

Enabled and permission granted now.
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Old 14th June 2008   #15
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Enabled and permission granted now.
And for that, I give you reputation points!
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Old 14th June 2008   #16
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ooohhh a new toy
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Old 14th June 2008   #17
lpg
 
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what's wrong with '+1' ?
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Old 14th June 2008   #18
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This is kind of neat - it tells you who is responsible in your User CP (as well as why they did it). I'm a little frightened of it going crazy though.
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Old 14th June 2008   #19
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what's wrong with '+1' ?
People forget.

This is +1, but without it being forgot. So the sum of your contribution is remembered.

More key though, is that if your a pillock, well you have to put some effort in to undo that otherwise it will show.
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Old 15th June 2008   #20
asm
ok, which joker said I smelled?!
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Old 15th June 2008   #21
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I don't like this at all, so I disabled it.



I reckon it's unnecessary.
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Old 15th June 2008   #22
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yeah but if RPM disables it, can others still zuzz/hype his reputation?

I'm finding it a bit puzzling - I understood it was maybe a response to the TC thread that got out of hand - like, "don't be a major twat here making others feel crap else you'll be shown to be that.."? Or is it more for positivity? Can you be a major twat and use it to flame people covertly?

I have mixed feelings about its effectiveness.... but then I'm probably worried about being tagged a proper twat by everyone.
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Old 15th June 2008   #23
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It is puzzling, it's an experiment and I may nuke it after a couple of weeks.

There's this really great article (I think by Clay Shirky) that goes into the problems that community forums and social sites face when they grow. And one of the big things recommended is that the owners of the forums should do is give power to most regular and dedicated members to be able to take control of the community. That means firstly being able to identify those people, and then giving them the means to do stuff.

The reputation system is part of that, it provides a means to identify those who are the most central to the community.

As those core people earn positive reputation their influence on other peoples' reputation increases.

What the means is that when there is a troll being a twat, that is those core people identify the troll and give negative rep, they mark his reputation in a way that the rest of the forum users know to ignore the fellow. Basically it gives the core members power.

That there is theory behind it... that once a community gets too big it has problems relating to size that become more and more annoying. We aren't there yet, nowhere near. But what I'm doing is experimenting with the features of the software to see ahead of time which of the features are the most powerful for you guys. Which things will most help?

So this is just an experiment, and in a couple of weeks I'll look at how it's being used and probably will just ask you via a poll whether you want it or not, whether you think it has any value.

And yeah, you can just disable it in your UserCp > Options.
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Old 15th June 2008   #24
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can you view what another persons reputation is?
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Old 15th June 2008   #25
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You can order by Reputation in the Member List.

But if you mean, can you read their messages? No I don't think so.

But maybe I've just not found the setting for it yet.

Heh, that makes them almost like whispers. Well I'll be damned.
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Old 16th June 2008   #26
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so... H2O and Hippy have a better reputation than you VB. (!?)
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Old 16th June 2008   #27
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Well, they're funnier I guess.
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Old 16th June 2008   #28
dicki
hey i drank 12 cans of stella yesterday does that add to my reputation

brighton and back on my fixed last summer surely that gets major points ?
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Old 16th June 2008   #29
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Well, they're funnier I guess.
It's more that this thing hasn't really caught on yet... People aren't in the habit of repping. I doubt it takes much to change who's at the top of the list.

+repped you VB to see if it'd do anything. It didn't. Maybe it needs more than one person to shift things.
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Old 16th June 2008   #30
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The maths behind it is weird. I don't really know how it works... that's kinda the point in turning it on and seeing what it does.
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Old 16th June 2008   #31
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Old 16th June 2008   #32
h2o
Well, you're now at the top of the list VB, so something happened somewhere eventually...
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Old 16th June 2008   #33
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You can order by Reputation in the Member List.

But if you mean, can you read their messages? No I don't think so.

But maybe I've just not found the setting for it yet.

Heh, that makes them almost like whispers. Well I'll be damned.
nah i mean like i've seen the same concept on other forums but its like a small bar under each persons name next to their posts and it steadily grows bigger the more reputation you get? Or gets greener/redder etc. Just that at the moment its not that obvious what someones reputation is. If i'm making any sense.....
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Old 16th June 2008   #34
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Oh right.

I think that's just because we're all pretty much at the same level right now... so there's no differentiation until enough numbers are collected to make a difference.

Right now, we're all Cat 4. The ranks I've put in are cycling ones.
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Old 16th June 2008   #35
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Hehe its like a clap o meter.

Say something funny and I rate you. Post a picture of a puppy slaying conversion and I slate you.

I can see this being fun.
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