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Old 13th June 2008   #1
kiptinui
Sizing a Charge Plug

Hey! I'm looking to order a Charge Plug. Problem is, I don't live in England and nobody nearby stocks them, so it makes sizing one up difficult. I'm about 5"11' and I'm guessing medium size is what I want, but I'm open to suggestions. Any Plug owners out there who could help? Thanks!

The sizing chart looks like this:

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Old 13th June 2008   #2
asm
Yeah, I'd say medium for you. That's not a great sizing chart! Normally the measurement of choice is the seat tube c-t (center of BB shell to top of seat tube). Their STL measurement seems to be from the base of the BB shell to the top of the seat tube.

I'm 6ft and i take around 56/57cm. I'd guess that the medium would be about 56cm c-t.
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Old 13th June 2008   #3
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bombproof, they are
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Old 13th June 2008   #4
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The Charge Plug's frame is just perfect for everyday street cycling without the harsher ride of a pure track bike, I would've got one had they not been sold out and brought a Bianchi Pista instead.

56/57 concur.
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Old 13th June 2008   #5
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medium, although at 5'11" a large size might be warranted.
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Old 13th June 2008   #6
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I'm 5' 9" and I've got the Medium, so yeah the Large for you I reckon.
It fits me fine, but is a bit of a stretch on long rides; I may get a shorter stem.

Great choice of bike by the way; it's my first fixie and I bloody love it!
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Old 13th June 2008   #7
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bombproof, they are
ffs
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Old 14th June 2008   #8
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ffs
what would be an better alternated? suicide-bombproof?
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Old 14th June 2008   #9
kiptinui
Your comments seem to indicate medium for me and that's what the bike joint have recommended (I'm a "short" 5'11"). Looking forward to getting my ride on, cheers!
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Old 15th June 2008   #10
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I would reccomend you go try one out before you buy,

I have two road bikes, one a 80s raleigh fixie conversion with really basic parts and 27 wheel.

the other a 60's 5 speed coventry eagle with steel wheels, steel bars, mudguards etc.

Charge plug outweighed em both.

I was thinking of getting one too, but for me they are shockingly heavy.
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Old 15th June 2008   #11
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ffs
just for you ;)
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Old 16th June 2008   #12
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I would reccomend you go try one out before you buy,

I have two road bikes, one a 80s raleigh fixie conversion with really basic parts and 27 wheel.

the other a 60's 5 speed coventry eagle with steel wheels, steel bars, mudguards etc.

Charge plug outweighed em both.

I was thinking of getting one too, but for me they are shockingly heavy.



Stop slating my bike just cos you did 5 metres on it after critical mass :)
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Old 16th June 2008   #13
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I'm 6ft and have a medium, i find it a pretty perfect fit, i agree about the stem though switched to a shorter one and so much better. yeah they are a bit heavy, but as RPM says bombproof or as hillbilly and I say Indestructabike :-)
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Old 16th June 2008   #14
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I'm 6ft and have a medium, i find it a pretty perfect fit, i agree about the stem though switched to a shorter one and so much better. yeah they are a bit heavy, but as RPM says bombproof or as hillbilly and I say Indestructabike :-)

I managed to smash in to a car at about 23mph, and all I had to replace was my forks(that snapped because I put some full carbon ones on) the frame was fine.
I'm about 5'9" and have a Medium, but beware they do tend to come up a little big.
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Old 16th June 2008   #15
asm
If hillbilly had metal forks on it, he would've cut the car in half. :)
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Old 19th June 2008   #16
hamster
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what would be an better alternated? suicide-bombproof?
how about something relevant?
'hardy'
'resilient'
'robust'
'sturdy'
'indestructible'
even 'Suitable for London's streets'

despite the apparent plethora of unexploded munitions in the surrounding area, i find it highly unlikely that the claim 'bombproof' for bike bits will ever be tested in a real-life situation.
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Old 19th June 2008   #17
deadly fanny pack
 
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Stop slating my bike just cos you did 5 metres on it after critical mass :)
haha,

not slating, the plug was just surprisingly heavy.

Might be a good thing for a lot of people whoe are either big, or into that fix-gear-free styling shenanigans..

I think a lot of off the peg ones are simarlarly heavy, I was looking at a schwinn madison but everyone says that weighs a ton aswell.

The Bianchi pista is made of plain guage steel so I imagine thats heavy although I havent felt one.
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Old 19th June 2008   #18
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Slightly OT but a work colleague has just bought a new Plug (very nice it is too).

He complained about it being a bit spinny, my immediate response was HTFU but on looking at his bike they've fitted 42T chainring as standard. This is like 63 GIs with 18T freewheel - seems too spinny to me.

Is this normal?
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Old 20th June 2008   #19
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I think 42T and 16T is a decent size to be honest, especially in London.

I came down from 52-16, then 46-16, and now 48-19, the 48-19 is spinny after using the bigger size but after a while i got used to it.
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Old 20th June 2008   #20
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Yeah but 42x16 is 71 GIs (by my calcs). 42x18 = 63.

Can you get different toothed freewheels? Sounds like a 16T is the answer.
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Old 20th June 2008   #21
ilovesteel
I was thinking about getting one but the weight put me off and i opted for the Kona Paddy Wagon and i'm 6'4"

They do look bombproof though, though i still prefer riding something lighter
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Old 20th June 2008   #22
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Interesting, is this the new 2008 Plug? my (2007) plug had 42 x 16 as standard, and i've gone down to a 15 on the back now.
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Old 24th June 2008   #23
paulfisher
i'm 178cm ( about 5''10') which size should i pick?
could i go with a small?
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Old 24th June 2008   #24
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^^probably, I'm 6"2 so I got a large, but a medium would probably have been better for me
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Old 25th June 2008   #25
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i'm 178cm ( about 5''10') which size should i pick?
could i go with a small?

Go find a shop that has them in stock and go for a test or come along to either south,east or west drinks and have a go on mine. its a M, TBH I think a S would be to small for you unless you have pigmee legs.
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Old 25th June 2008   #26
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haha,

not slating, the plug was just surprisingly heavy.

The Bianchi pista is made of plain guage steel so I imagine thats heavy although I havent felt one.
The funny thing is, the Bianchi Pista is heavier than the Plug, and I mean noticably heavier, even with all the bit and piece the Plug have, it's still lighter than a Pista.
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Old 27th June 2008   #27
Kirth
I'm 5"10 and have the M... which is about perfect for me. It's probably a good idea to have a spin on one first though.
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Old 27th June 2008   #28
livingasleep
I'm about 5'9 and even the S (dont ask me why they size their bikes this way) was much too big for me. The charge sizing is really strange.

I think I have short legs... but yeah most places allow you to take one for a spin.

Try a few different ones out unless youre settled on a plug.
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Old 29th June 2008   #29
famousmime
Hi, first time poster here.

I have been stalking the forums in preparation for buying a bike and and found a lot of helpful information, so thanks.

This table, which I have also seen on the charge web site only goes as small as 's'. However, on the Charge web site, the plug is listed as being available in 'xs'.
Anyone know anything about Charge being available in xs and where I could try one out?
Is xs usually a 15" frame?

I am 5'2" female and struggling to find an OTP that I like but may end up having Brick Lane Bikes build me something sized perfectly based on their own frame. The thing is that they won't get more smaller sized ones in for about a month and the nice weather in London is making me antsy. Also, my workplace is supposed to start cycle to work scheme and I may need to do it OTP.

Thanks...
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Old 30th June 2008   #30
Evilmonkey
To add to the mix, I'm 6'1" and have a large. Tried a medium and to my monkey like arms it felt too crowded, the extra 2cm gives me a place to stretch out...
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Old 30th June 2008   #31
famousmime
Me again...

Just some further info to share. First I called Brick Lane bikes and they said it doesn't come in XS. Next, I called Hot Wheels, the UK distributor for Charge. They said that the new Plugs do come in XS and that Brick Lane Bikes and Evans should have them and that they were sending a big order out to Brick Lane Bikes soon. I called BL back and they reluctantly took my name to contact me when they come in but that they had none in stock. It's not listed on Evans web site.
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Old 30th June 2008   #32
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I've got a small, I'm 5'8", and it's a little on the big side......
but i'm hard as shit, so it doesn't bother me.
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Old 1st July 2008   #33
kiptinui
I got the medium, it seems an exact fit. I'm used to a longer stretch on the top-tube, but it doesn't feel cramped, especially after I lowered the stem, which also nudges it forward a bit. Were I an inch taller I'd be inclined to go large though (although this might be awkward with the higher top-tube as a result of greater seat-tube length) I mailed Charge about the sizing and they said I was between M and L, recommending the L for aesthetic reasons. It's a terrific bike, would happily buy another (I'm 5'11" with 31.5" inner-leg incidentally)
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Old 1st September 2008   #34
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Handy thread: I'm about to put an order/deposit on a Plug racer. Certainly don't have the luxury of try before I buy as Leisure Lakes Cheltenham are ordering it in for me. Now faced with the decision of which size to go for. Ted from Fixed Gear London suggested the medium (he's 5 6" and finds the small big) but the shop are advising me L. Have emailed Charge and waiting for their reply, but I'm guessing they'll suggest the L

From experience I'm leaning toward the medium, as I've bought big frames before (MTB tho) and wished I got them smaller. I recently fitted a On One Midge to an old Orange Gringo to make it more of a dedicated road bike and found it uncomfortable on long rides (much to my chagrin, spend over £100 doing it for nowt) so think I've got a quite upright riding style
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Old 1st September 2008   #35