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Old 10th June 2008   #1
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Tri-spokes etc

Anyone know about replacing / changing trispoke hubs?

I have a spare 650c Specialized Carbon trispoke and was wondering if it was possible to change the hub to a front.

They're the same as the Hed3's. (Did Hed take over from Specialized?)

Anyone got any experience of this?

I've seen a few rear carbon wheels on the bay and was wondering which (if any) can have the hubs changed.

Any help appreciated,

Thanks.
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Old 10th June 2008   #2
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I've seen a few rear carbon wheels on the bay and was wondering which (if any) can have the hubs changed.
Same thoughts here, I have seen a white rear tri-spoke (650) looking for a home for a while and was also wondering what it would take to run it as a front ?
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Old 10th June 2008   #3
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I saw that too! ;-)
I'm sure it only need a couple of spare bits right?
It's been getting cheaper and cheaper.

I'm sure there must be a source of info. I've had no joy finding out.
I've heard some hubs can be changed.

Keep seeing nice rears for gears...
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Old 10th June 2008   #4
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I emailed HED UK (in Sheffield) a few weeks back to ask if a Rear HED 3 with shimano cassette could be converted to 100mm front, and i simply got an email saying "NO" in massive type! Nice.

I believe though, that rear track specific HED 3s can have a shorted axle put in (100mm) so it can be run on the front, but you'll still have the sprocket threading on the outer shell of the hub...
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Old 10th June 2008   #5
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I guess a lot of people have been bugging hed about this!

If it's a screw on block you could be right about using a shorter axle.
As long as you don't mind looking at the threads...
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Old 10th June 2008   #6
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isn't objects or dog's front hed a rear wheel??
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Old 10th June 2008   #7
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Where are they when you need em?!
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Old 10th June 2008   #8
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i'm pretty sure one of theirs was.
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Old 10th June 2008   #9
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Most normal hubs the flange to flange width is less on a rar than a front hub. It is only the axle spacers holding the spacers out so there is room for a cog and the bodies are abit wider as well. The hub bodies on a pair of hubs I have in front of me are

front, 80 mm with 10 mm worth of cone nuts and lock nuts on each side.
rear, 92 mm

Now the cone nut on the front protrude 3.3 mm so if the front cone nut were swapped with the rear the rear wheel could be spaced t0 92 +3.3+3.3=98.6mm without any lock nuts on the cones. If you uses some blue locktite on the cone nuts could you get away without lock nuts on the cones? With regular checking quite possibly.
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Old 10th June 2008   #10
essbee
I run a rear hed3 on the front witrh no problems.. I used a smaller axle and spacers.. Its a screw on block hub.
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Old 10th June 2008   #11
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The Specialized I have is for a cassette.
Makes it more difficult.
Just seen this:
http://www.hedcycling.com/cart/accessories.php
Wondering if it's possible to replace it with a front...

If you can change them, then surely.....?
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Old 10th June 2008   #12
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hahahaha! i HAVE to get one of these!
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Old 10th June 2008   #13
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Not as good as the Arrospok posters though!
In fact, though it's a joke, the spok posters are making me want one!
Reverse marketing?...
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Old 10th June 2008   #14
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The Specialized I have is for a cassette.
Makes it more difficult.
Just seen this:
http://www.hedcycling.com/cart/accessories.php
Wondering if it's possible to replace it with a front...

If you can change them, then surely.....?
I dont think you can do it with the specialized tri spoke. From what I've heard The hed track conversion kit isnt compatiable even if you want to use it as a rear. Is it a shimano cassette hub?
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Old 10th June 2008   #15
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don't get trispoke man.
it's all about scraper bikes these days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geIsWq5xOSE
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Old 10th June 2008   #16
asm
yeah, mine (object's) is a rear re-spaced. You don't need to buy a new hub! :)
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Old 10th June 2008   #17
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saw someone rocking some scrapper styles at CM last month
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Old 10th June 2008   #18
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I dont think you can do it with the specialized tri spoke. From what I've heard The hed track conversion kit isnt compatiable even if you want to use it as a rear. Is it a shimano cassette hub?
It's for a Shimano 9 Speed. I saw the track conversion doesn't have a lockring!
Also, it's a 650 so I wouldn't want to use it as a rear.

I guess if nothing can be done, I'll sell it for its intended triathlon use...
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Old 10th June 2008   #19
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yeah, mine (object's) is a rear re-spaced. You don't need to buy a new hub! :)
But the one I have is for a cassette :-(
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Old 10th June 2008   #20
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I'm using a rear Tri Spoke on the Front,
its for a screw on rear hub
I really shouldn't mention that i just hacksawed the quick release axel and added spacers should I?
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Old 10th June 2008   #21
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What ASM said, that was a specialised dupont with screw on block.
Remove that + shorter axle = front wheel.

Tey even used to be sold with both axles as a kit.
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Old 10th June 2008   #22
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What ASM said, that was a specialised dupont with screw on block.
Remove that + shorter axle = front wheel.

Tey even used to be sold with both axles as a kit.
It's a cassette hub.
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Old 10th June 2008   #23
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Tey even used to be sold with both axles as a kit.
Tey ?
Sort it out. Anyone would think you're typing with one hand.
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Old 10th June 2008   #24
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HED site says...
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Available in tubular only, 650 or 700. Shimano cassette or fixed gear. Hubs are wheel-specific, two sealed bearings on the front wheel, one sealed cartridge on the rear non-drive side and ¼” loose ball-bearings on the drive side. We recommend carbon specific brake pads for the H3C.
So they think you shouldn't be swapping them around.
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Old 10th June 2008   #25
asm
oh todd, that's a shame! Is it tub or clincher, your rim? I'm surprised that they don't have replacable hubs. Tekk a hacksaw to it? *Shrug*...

Is the width of the cassette part more than 100 mil?
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Old 10th June 2008   #26
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HED definitely modified the design so I'm not suprised.

Oh and Timmy, You're a cunt!
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Old 10th June 2008   #27
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Oh and Timmy, You're a cunt!

??? What sorry ehh?

Are you come for a drink tonight?
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Old 10th June 2008   #28
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Timmy. not Tommy.
Got a dinner date tonight I'm afraid.
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Old 10th June 2008   #29
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you can get different hub axle arrangments. to change a front to a rear. but as mentioned it will be just screw on, no lockring thread.

people change spinergy's to fixed using a surly fixer thingy, all the time. if you need a new axle give us a holla as we have a tech dude thats makes stuff for our lab and he's spun up a new axle for me b4 ;)
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Old 10th June 2008   #30
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oh todd, that's a shame! Is it tub or clincher, your rim? I'm surprised that they don't have replacable hubs. Tekk a hacksaw to it? *Shrug*...

Is the width of the cassette part more than 100 mil?
Yes it's a shame. But like I said, it's spare so if anyone's interested in trying to convert it, I'll sell it. It's for tubs. I bought a (reasonably priced) pair! ;-)
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Old 10th June 2008   #31
asm
what happened to the front then?
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Old 10th June 2008   #32
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I'll be keeping the front. Wondered if I could convert the rear too.
I've seen so many great composite rear wheels and had been thinking about how to switch hubs.

I'm sure someone will buy it...
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Old 10th June 2008   #33
Leo
can someone explain "screw on blocks" i was tempted to buy one of these on ebay to run fixed.. but didn't like to take the risk. is there a way of running one of these as fixed rear?

cheers,

L
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Old 10th June 2008   #34
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the screw on block is a cassette that screws on.
it has a single thread you could put a freewheel on safely, but not ideal to fixed riding as there is no second reverse thread for a lockring.
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