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Old 6th June 2008   #1
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£20 for Charge Spoon Titanium?

I went to my local Action Bike shop in Wimbledon, as I ordered a white charge spoon saddle, as it's comfortable as fuck for a cheap saddle.

only to my surprise that the white charge saddle I got wasn't the normal one, it's in fact the titanium one (I notice the logos is baby blue instead of red), they made a mistake in their whole Charge Spoon saddle line-up, they're selling titanium one for £20 instead of £50.

thought I rather like them, so I told the guys at Action Bike that they mispriced the charge saddle, but they let me have the white titanium for £20 anyway, since I pointed out the error, they would've lost quite a handful of money had they sold it (and they're popular here), they let me have it for £20, result!


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Old 6th June 2008   #2
Ved
 
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I got the grey one, its pretty comfy, but only ridden it for 20 miles or so...
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Old 6th June 2008   #3
rusty
 
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I'd be tempeted to swap my Fizik Arione for a white spoon. Anyone have one they want to swap?
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Old 6th June 2008   #4
matt (baddesigner)
 
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first day riding my white spoon, super comfy after my rock hard brooks. only downer is the red logo is wearing off pretty fast, 7 miles in. but hey, a great saddle.
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Old 6th June 2008   #5
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I got the grey one, its pretty comfy, but only ridden it for 20 miles or so...
I like the grey one more now that I think about it, ah well, at least the white one encourage me further to respray the Bianchi Pista in light grey.
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Old 6th June 2008   #6
matt (baddesigner)
 
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grey is best for grime and indigo rub too huh?
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Old 6th June 2008   #7
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I went to my local Action Bike shop in Wimbledon, as I ordered a white charge spoon saddle, as it's comfortable as fuck for a cheap saddle.

only to my surprise that the white charge saddle I got wasn't the normal one, it's in fact the titanium one (I notice the logos is baby blue instead of red), they made a mistake in their whole Charge Spoon saddle line-up, they're selling titanium one for £20 instead of £50.

thought I rather like them, so I remind them that they mispriced the charge saddle, but they let me have the white titanium for £20 anyway, result!

If it is advertised at this price then they must sell (if asked) at least one saddle at this price on the day of publication or distrubution of that price (be it in a catalogue, newspaper, website, window dispaly, radio ad etc etc).
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Old 6th June 2008   #8
eeehhhh
^ I'm pretty sure that's not true.

When I worked at Comet, if something was mislabeled at the wrong price, we don't have to sell it and instead must withdraw it from sale for 24 hours.

Customers used to move the paper tickets between TV models to try and get HD TVs for the price of standard definition TVs. They'd pipe up big time. Was threatened with solicitors a few times!

The manager always said: If you had a house worth £200,000 and advertised in a newspaper, but the newspaper printed it wrong as £20,000, do you have to sell for £20,000? No, of course not.

If it was a small difference, the store might do it as a goodwill gesture, but they have no legal obligation to sell anything.
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Old 6th June 2008   #9
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Yes this was on newsround when I was a kid. You only have to change the price to the correct price. You don't have to sell anyone the item at the reduced price. It's a lie!
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Old 6th June 2008   #10
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^ I'm pretty sure that's not true.

When I worked at Comet, if something was mislabeled at the wrong price, we don't have to sell it and instead must withdraw it from sale for 24 hours.
Perhaps this is a trick to circunavigate the law on this, but that is the law, if you advertise a car for £30 then you must sell at least one car on the day of publication/broadcast of that price or else it is false/misleading advertising.

What better way than to witdraw the product on the day of the day of publication/broadcast of that price, if you did not withdraw the product then you would have to sell at the advertised price.

I know this only too well as many years ago as a student I worked night as a paste-up artist (back in the olden days) and I sent out an ad (Arding and Hobbs) with a fridge for £19 (should have been £199) to just about every local newspaper in the south of England - they weren't pleased.

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Customers used to move the paper tickets between TV models to try and get HD TVs for the price of standard definition TVs. They'd pipe up big time. Was threatened with solicitors a few times!
That's covered by fraud.

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The manager always said: If you had a house worth £200,000 and advertised in a newspaper, but the newspaper printed it wrong as £20,000, do you have to sell for £20,000? No, of course not.
That would be the newspaper's error and not yours.
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Old 6th June 2008   #11
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Yes this was on newsround when I was a kid. You only have to change the price to the correct price. You don't have to sell anyone the item at the reduced price. It's a lie!
I could well be mistaken as my information is at least 15 years old, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it was 'a lie' !

I feel slighted, I am off to weep and then get a Mars bar and a strong cup of tea. :(
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Old 6th June 2008   #12
kowalski
As I understand it the incorrect pricing is not an issue because a shop is not legally obliged to sell you anything.

Sounds daft.

Unless you've been to CONdor...
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Old 6th June 2008   #13
joachim
I'm no lawyer but I'm guessing there would be a well established precedent that says mistakes don't have to be honoured.

But misleading advertising laws would be breached when the vendor intentionally advertises the wrong price - say to get more customers in the door.
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Old 6th June 2008   #14
xroads
I find the raised stitching on the charge spoon saddle causes chaffing. These flat seam stitched saddles dont suit my butt. Had enough of it and moving onto the san marco rolls.
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Old 6th June 2008   #15
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I work for waitrose and a few months ago in the food illustrated magazine a mistakenly advertised a£20 bottle of whiskey for £6, in some stores this price was honoured but in mine it was just withdrawn from sale until the advertised offer was over, not sure if one was sold at that price before withdrawing or not. Also waitrose, and I assume all retailers have to do legality checks on products to ensure they are the correct price.

As far as I'm aware, if a ticket states a price than that has to be honoured for that product.
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Old 6th June 2008   #16
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i got a black sugino 75 crankset with chainring from condor, as the guy said it was £120, but then said £160, hounded the boss till i got it for £120.
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Old 6th June 2008   #17
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I think if a shop priced the product for less (or more) than it's suggested price, unless they quickly withdraw it, they must sell it at the suggested price.

it probably limited to shop really, I don't think it's included when you sell house, car etc.
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Old 6th June 2008   #18
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Its yer basic contract law; the advertisement is an invitation for you to pay over a consideration for the item and by accepting your offer a contract is formed between you and the seller which should be honoured.

The seller however is under no obligation to accept your offer so until moolah actually changes hands e.g. credit card is debited on a mail order, then there is no contract and no obligation.

Equally, even if an item is properly priced and you offer to pay that price the shop is under no obligation to accept your offer. You have no *right* to buy anything in a shop, you are just given the opportunity to make an offer for it which may or may not be accepted hence haggling etc.
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Old 6th June 2008   #19
eeehhhh
^ Yeah, an "invitation to treat" or something like that.

Loads on council web sites, e.g.http://www.telford.gov.uk/Advice+ben...dards+FAQs.htm

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Q. I have seen a CD player on sale in a shop that I want to buy. However, when I tried to buy it the manager told me it was the wrong price. Can I make the shop sell it to me at the displayed price?
A. No. You cannot make a trader sell anything to you if they don't want to. In civil law when goods are displayed in a shop, a catalogue or an advertisement, this is called an 'invitation to treat'. This means that it is an invitation for the consumer to make an offer to the shop to buy the goods, and it is up to the shop whether or not they want to accept that offer.
However the shop might have committed a criminal offence. This is because the Consumer Protection Act 1987 says that traders must not display misleading prices. You could report this to Trading Standards who may investigate the matter, however if this was a 'one-off' genuine mistake they would be unlikely to take any action.
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Old 6th June 2008   #20
kowalski
That's what I said.
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Old 6th June 2008   #21
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Yeah and me . . . .


(slinks off and hides in a corner)
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Old 6th June 2008   #22
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I could well be mistaken as my information is at least 15 years old, but I wouldn't go as far as to say it was 'a lie' !

I feel slighted, I am off to weep and then get a Mars bar and a strong cup of tea. :(
Sorry for not putting the ;) in there. Next time you see whatamidoing tell him to give you the pint he said he'd give me.
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Old 6th June 2008   #23
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The payment acceptance thing is key; my mate Dom got an all inclusive week for two at a resort in the Bahamas with his own own butler for £200 cos Lastminute processed the mispriced booking and honoured it.
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Old 6th June 2008   #24
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that's awesome!
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Old 6th June 2008   #25
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Yeah I had a school teacher who got first class flights to singapore for £450 return. Phoned up KLM during our lesson to make sure that it was going to be honoured. He was well chuffed with himself.
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Old 7th June 2008   #26
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grey is best for grime and indigo rub too huh?
yeah i reckon it would be a safe bet.
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