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Old 11th June 2008   #51
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I'm very up for this - I've been thinking about building my own wheels for a while, but have been worried about ending up in a bloody mess surrounded by bent spokes after their first ride. This will be really helpful, thanks to everyone who's offered to help out.

To show my ignorance, what will I need to bring?
- Hubs, and rims obviously
- Spokes (any particular kind, size?)
- Nipples (any particular kind, size?)
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Old 11th June 2008   #52
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See how my ebay sale goes but it might include some powdercoating.
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Old 11th June 2008   #53
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Sparky, if you're in, copy and paste the list from the previous page and add your name - Thursday is filling up fast and places are limited to 8 at each.

I've asked SBB about what we need to bring ... will post asap.
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Old 11th June 2008   #54
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Thursday 26th (7pm)
1. Playswellwithotters
2. JOL
3. Ved
4. rjs
5. PJS
6. kat

Saturday 28th (afternoon)
1. horatiotigre
2. VanUden
3. Sparky
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Old 12th June 2008   #55
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Thursday 26th (7pm)
1. Playswellwithotters
2. JOL
3. Ved
4. rjs
5. PJS
6. kat
7. Yebo

Saturday 28th (afternoon)
1. horatiotigre
2. VanUden
3. Sparky
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Old 12th June 2008   #56
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After having a chat with Mr Otters, and PJS last night, I was wondering whether anyone would be interested in a group order for the parts for this. I'm going to try and see whether I can get someone to give us a bit of a discount.

However, we probably need to make up our minds as to what people are wanting - let me know if you have preferences, and I'll see what I can do to sort this out.

Cheers!
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Old 12th June 2008   #57
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I would have been interested, but I just picked up my deep v rim from Cavendish and ordered a hub last night. Haven't got spokes or any rim tape yet though...
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Old 12th June 2008   #58
yebo
i want to either rebuild a knackered old rear wheel, or build from scratch a quality front wheel for my geared road bike. so not sure if a group-buy is applicable
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Old 12th June 2008   #59
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I've ordered two Mavic CXP-33s, but I'm still on the look out for hubs/spokes.
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Old 12th June 2008   #60
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Cavendish have LOADS of nice hubs, but I opted for the Diatech Gran Compe Track hub from Triton Cycles.
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Old 12th June 2008   #61
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I have some PayPal cash burning a hole in my digital pocket, so I was going to go with some Phils from HubJub. Unfortunately they're out of 32 - guess what hole-count I bought my rims in...
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Old 12th June 2008   #62
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Thursday 26th (7pm)
1. Playswellwithotters
2. JOL
3. Ved
4. rjs
5. PJS
6. kat
7. Yebo

Saturday 28th (afternoon)
1. horatiotigre
2. VanUden
3. Sparky
is it too late to request a place too?? unfortunately, i'm not able to make the saturday, so would have to be thursday evening. and, i've got exams until next week so not able to source gear until after wednesday (but i guess that gives me a week).

cheers!
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Old 12th June 2008   #63
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See, my problem is, I get paid two days before the wheel build class. Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction of where I might get all my wheel building needs served here in London town on the cheap?
Cough Cough
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Old 12th June 2008   #64
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Thursday 26th (7pm)
1. Playswellwithotters
2. JOL
3. Ved
4. rjs
5. PJS
6. kat
7. Yebo
8. d0cA

Saturday 28th (afternoon)
1. horatiotigre
2. VanUden
3. Sparky

told there were 8 places - hadn't realised that - so thanks! i've grabbed the last place on thursday, lookin' forward to it :-)
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Old 12th June 2008   #65
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Thursday 26th (7pm)
1. Playswellwithotters
2. JOL
3. Ved
4. rjs
5. PJS
6. kat
7. Yebo
8. d0cA
FULL!

Saturday 28th (afternoon)
1. horatiotigre
2. VanUden
3. Sparky

Anyone else in for Saturday? C'mon, it'll be lovely...
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Old 12th June 2008   #66
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no way I'll be building my first wheel with dOcA - who'd have thought eh Doc? ;)
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Old 13th June 2008   #67
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I have some PayPal cash burning a hole in my digital pocket, so I was going to go with some Phils from HubJub. Unfortunately they're out of 32 - guess what hole-count I bought my rims in...
Ring cavendish cycles, they has some phils in the display cabinet. I saw some nice halo track hubs too... never realised they (halo) were into track stuff though?! No idea of rep, but the looked nice.

SJS cycles is very resonable for spokes they have most sizes and stock DT Swiss. The nipples come with the spokes I believe.
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Old 13th June 2008   #68
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Thanks playswellwithotters for organising this, like I said before I can bring a wheel truing jig along and a wheel truing tool if we need it.

1. Playswellwithotters
2. JOL
3. Ved
4. rjs
5. PJS
6. kat
7. Yebo
8. d0cA
FULL!

Saturday 28th (afternoon)
1. horatiotigre
2. VanUden
3. Sparky
4. Polybikeuser
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Old 13th June 2008   #69
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no way I'll be building my first wheel with dOcA - who'd have thought eh Doc? ;)
certainly not what i'd've imagined 10 years ago, either ;-) looking forward to it tho...
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Old 13th June 2008   #70
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Ok ...
I have access to 3 possibly 4 truing stands, if we can get more then that would be great. Or just do two to a stand.
I have a handful of spoke keys, but more would be good.

As for spokes.. if you can workout the sizes you need i can make an order. Try and get the lengths to me by the middle of next week so that i can make sure they are here in time. DT double butteds i could probs do for 40p each.

Bike fix will have some goldtecs in soon, not sure if thy will arrive before the dates though, ill check with trev.
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Old 13th June 2008   #71
d0cA
i don't have anything, yet (rims, spokes, hubs) so advice welcomed on all of that, although i will look more into it over the weekend.
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Old 13th June 2008   #72
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OK, Phil HF hubs just won on eBay, Mavic CXP 33 rims coming from Wiggle - I'm nearly ready for class.
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Old 16th June 2008   #73
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RJS, i'd love to take you up on a group buy if you can co-ordinate it.

I'm building cheap, so system ex / formula equivelant hubs (silver) and some mavic cxp33s, if we can get a decent discount. I'll take up Matt's offer on the spokes.

Any suggestions for slightly cheaper rims? I think the cxp22s only come in black and i'm being a snob for the shiny silver finish.

Is anyone else looking to buy similar bits?

oh, and i'm buying for front (100mm) and rear (120mm) - will build one at the workshop and one at home.
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Old 16th June 2008   #74
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I am actually Otters. And I'm also in for the group buy as well.
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Old 16th June 2008   #75
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I'm in for the group buy on spokes etc - thoroughly confused about lengths at the moment.
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Old 16th June 2008   #76
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From past experience of trying to arrange group buys, probably need 5 or so people if we're going to get much advantage.

I'm sort-of looking at Goldtec to Deep V, but might end up doing Formula/System-Ex to Deep V.

If there's only three of us, I don't know whether it's worth trying to arrange it - thoughts?
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Old 16th June 2008   #77
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RJS, there's me, you, horatiotigre ... D0cA said he hasn't bought yet. This thread is slipping because it's not so active, maybe PM everyone else that has signed up?
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Old 16th June 2008   #78
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If you're doing a group buy of cheap stuff, I may join in on the fun even though I won't be part of the building class. I wouldn't mind building a back wheel. Then I'd only be handle bars and stem away from a pub bike.
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Old 16th June 2008   #79
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well only four minutes after yours otters but...bump.

er dudes...since we last "spoke" (see what I did there?) I've hooked myself up with a pair of those SJSC hubs. Will be building 36h Mavic Open Pro, also now in my possession. Otters you can get Open Pros - the modest gentleman's choice - for between 25 and 30 spots each. 25 will be difficult but it is possible (ie that's what I ended up paying). Silver too.

I've been told by SJSC I need 287mm spokes for rear and 288mm for front for a three cross - which means my own comprehension levels have now blown a gasket and I just hope this is right... sound right to you SBB Matt?
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Old 16th June 2008   #80
kat
me too. i'm in for a group buy on spokes etc if it works out. I have 32h high flange dura ace hubs and (hopefully) Velocity deep v's to work with.
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Old 16th June 2008   #81
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RJS, there's me, you, horatiotigre ... D0cA said he hasn't bought yet. This thread is slipping because it's not so active, maybe PM everyone else that has signed up?
yeah - i'm definitely up for a group buy of hubs, if one's going to happen. my rear spacing is 120mm, front 100mm although i was just going to do the back for the time being... however, would be interested in getting both hubs if the price were right. not particularly fussed about what they are, either, as i don't really know enough to know the difference at the moment (or, ride them hard enough either?).
i was then (probably) going to get a deep-V from cavendish or holloway, although i'm currently being a bit indecisive about colours ;-)
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Old 16th June 2008   #82
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I'll give Cavendish/BLB etc a ring tomorrow and see if we get a discount if we buy 5 sets of Formula/IRO etc things - we can probably order rims too. I'll check feasibility first thing tomorrow, and then we can go from there. :-)

On a train to Madchester right now, so apologies if this message appears eighteen hundred times, since National Express' wifi is terrible, and my now ex-job have cancelled my datacard.
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Old 16th June 2008   #83
kat
ah, i should have been clearer... i have my hubs but haven't got my deep Vs yet. so, please count me into group buy of these too. that'd be great. ta.
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Old 16th June 2008   #84
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OK, so we're looking at 4 sets of hubs, some rims.

With IRO/SystemEx, I think that's ~240 quid for the hubs, 25-35 quid for the rims each. I'll ring Cavendish in the morning, and then a couple of other people and see whether they'd be interested in offering us a discount.

If you need anything different, then scream at me. If not, I shall PM people tomorrow if I have any success.
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Old 16th June 2008   #85
kat
cool. thankyou
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Old 16th June 2008   #86
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cool. thankyou
+1: i really appreciate this!
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