Originally Posted by Platini

Originally Posted by snowy_again

Sadly, we can't even blame Boris (but it was in his manifesto). TfL did a pilot bit of research (Pistanator is right, it was the A23) in 2006 on it, and then some more in 2007, probably cos the 2006 research didn't come up with the right answer. There is some figure being bandied about that it reduced motorbike related accidents.

What's more worrying is that those 'licensed mini cab'* people might get access to it soon too.

* ie blind cnuts

Originally Posted by justMouse

So we're all agreed that scooter drivers are cunts? Good. I hate them.

'Real' motorcyclists have been, in my experience, the most aware, courteous and generous road users.

I'd say the relationship is a bit like skaters, BMXers and rollerbladers. (With scooter drivers taking the role of the fruit-booters).

Originally Posted by kipsy

black cab drivers take an advanced driving test before they get their badge!
seriously they do!!!

Originally Posted by runcible rakan

what monster have i created?

Originally Posted by tricitybendix

LCC are doing a petition on this, http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1145

Originally Posted by Build

Originally Posted by dicki

i regularly used to hit 100 going over the bow fly over

Originally Posted by vinylvillain

I ride my bicycle, scooter and various big motorbikes round London on a daily basis.

When i am on my bicycle the twats who get to me are the people who have just gone and bought a hybrid commuter for the summer and have no idea how to ride and get in the way of everyone else, along with the f++ck wits on scooters who ride up the inside of cars by the curb rather than filtering on the outside as they should do . .

When i am on my scooter the thing that f@@ks me off more than anything else is when some c@nt of a cyclist decides to cycle down the middle of the road in slow traffic, getting in the filtering space of motorcycles. Not only are they slowing me down, but they are putting themselves and other road users in danger . .

When i am on my Motorbike the thing that f++ks me off the most is the idiots on the scooters who have done a days training (cbt) and have no concept of how to ride safely on their underpowered 50cc pieces of sh!t, and are a danger to me and themselves . .

My point is that every other mode of transport is in your way whatever you happen to be riding/driving/pedaling . . though i would say that the most dangerous group of road users is cyclists, because we are the ones who take no notice of the majority of road laws, and also have no common training which means road users know how each other will behave. I have lost count of the number of cyclists i have nearly killed on Clerkenwell road in rush hour who cut in between cars and in front of filtering motorbikes without looking first. A lot of the accidents i see, and a lot of the accidents that my cycling friends have are by their own admissions avoidable if they hadnt been riding like a twat. I know that when i ride my bike i take way to many risks, but to me that is part of the buzz of riding around London.

I was at Bristol Uni when they bought in the same Bus Lane rules in, and it made no difference to riding my bike, and made motorcycling a lot safer. There has been a nation wide campaign run by MCN, the UK's biggest motorbike rag for the past decade to get this law in various cities. I think this is a great move, and cannot see how it is going to make my pedaling life any more dangerous, as from what i can tell the roads are in such a state of chaos already that it doesnt matter what you do, its still a lottery as to whether you end up in a hospital bed or your own bed at the end of any journey.

Having worked as a motorcycle courier , i can tell you that they are probably amongst the most considerate road users out there, and thier rivalry exists with taxi drivers, not cyclists.

Rant over

Originally Posted by Pistanator

Ha! Spot on

90% of the time I get into a black cab and ask to go to Brixton I always get the whole bollocks...black this, black that.....racist cunts!

Originally Posted by GrandeAnse2Grenville

and those recent lady cyclists (that have gingerly ventured from the pavement, to the bus-lanes) abandoning the whole cycling experiment altogether.

Originally Posted by GrandeAnse2Grenville

and those recent lady cyclists (that have gingerly ventured from the pavement, to the bus-lanes) abandoning the whole cycling experiment altogether.