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Old 22nd April 2008   #1
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Pedantry!

Ok. So ive notised All da grammor warrior's on 'ere.
Being a fellow pedant, I thought we should have a whole thread for letting out our grievances.

For starters:
Brake - Something which stops your bike.
Break - Something which happens to you bones if you don't have the above.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #2
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grammar warriors, leave the sub editing on you desk and ride your bike.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #3
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All I would like is a balance. I don't mind inaccuracies and errors in grammar as long as basic spelling can still convey what someone is trying to say without substantially altering the context of the statement.

At times the grammar police can be too cruel, but on the other hand at times the site feels like it is being authored by 5 year olds. It's hard to take seriously the mechanical opinion and experience of someone who sounds like a 5 year old, and that's a fault of mine really as I do understand that spelling isn't an indicator of intelligence or experience. The tech world is full of autistic geniuses who couldn't spell for toffee but who are remarkable with maths.

Basic spelling... yes please.
Common grammatical errors, not really bothered about.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #4
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  • YOUR - possessive - "Here is YOUR beer"
  • YOU'RE - contraction of YOU ARE - "YOU'RE swearing a lot and jeopardizing our ability to drink at this establishment"
  • YORE - usually used to denote the distant past (antiquated) - "a long time ago in the days of YORE"
  • YORK - A city
  • YORKIE - A popular chocolate bar with males. Also a nickname for small annoying dog
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Old 22nd April 2008   #5
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I fucking hate it when people (especially coppers) talk about /greev-y-ous/ bodily harm:

Grievous - /greev-ous/

And the old chestnut of people talking about how someone was 'disinterested' when they mean 'uninterested' (disinterested means 'unbiased').

Not sure I've seen these examples on the forum, but I do feel better now.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #6
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I fucking hate it when people (especially coppers) talk about /greev-y-ous/ bodily harm:

Grievous - /greev-ous/

And the old chestnut of people talking about how someone was 'disinterested' when they mean 'uninterested' (disinterested means 'unbiased').

Not sure I've seen these examples on the forum, but I do feel better now.
Listen out for 'burglery' rather than 'burglary'. You hear the former much more frequently than the latter.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #7
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Ok. So ive notised All da grammor warrior's on 'ere.
Being a fellow pedant, I thought we should have a whole thread for letting out our grievances.

For starters:
Brake - Something which stops your bike.
Break - Something which happens to you bones if you don't have the above.
If you're such a 'pedant' then why do you think this is a grammatical error? I hate people who missuse the word grammar.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #8
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@Platini - you mean with a 'dark /l/'? That's funny. Bungled bagel burglery.

@mugs - we could have a separate thread for lexical errors :)
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Old 22nd April 2008   #9
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@Platini - you mean with a 'dark /l/'? That's funny. Bungled bagel burglery.

@mugs - we could have a separate thread for lexical errors :)
That's it. It's everywhere. I bet you'll notice it all the time now.
In a similar vein, my missus can't prounce 'cutlery', it always comes out as 'cuttlery'.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #10
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My missus has a weird phonological glitch that makes her pronounce* 'savoy' (as in the cabbage) with the stress on the first syllable.

*I'm also vexed by people talking about /pro-nounce-iation/ - especially if they're supposed to be some kind of language professional. You'd be surprised... or maybe not.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #11
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people talking about /pro-nounce-iation/ - especially if they're supposed to be some kind of language professional. You'd be surprised... or maybe not.
I don't think there's a single person at Radio Bloke (aka Radio Five) who can pronounce 'pronunciation' properly.

Welcome to the Grumpy Old Men thread...
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Old 22nd April 2008   #12
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i am glad this thread has turned into things peope say incorrectly that annoy you... so here are my two pennys worth. the one that annoyes me the most is when people say disoriented instead of disorientated. i have heard BBC newscasters get this wrong and it makes me want to shout.

i dont so much mind about spelling mistakes, and typing errors. personally, i rarely use capital letters and am aware of it and indeed am fine about it so no need to point it out, but if you ever hear me describe that man with no hair as being bold, then kick me in the teeth.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #13
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mis-use of 'ironic' gets on my tits
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Old 22nd April 2008   #14
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i dont so much mind about spelling mistakes,
So I gathered. ;-)
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Old 22nd April 2008   #15
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what did i miss this time? apostrophe's perhaps? i thought i did well. dam.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #16
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mis-use of 'ironic' gets on my tits

yea like ten thousand spoons when all you need is a knife... killer.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #17
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i am glad this thread has turned into things peope say incorrectly that annoy you... so here are my two pennys worth. the one that annoyes me the most is when people say disoriented instead of disorientated.i have heard BBC newscasters get this wrong and it makes me want to shout.

i dont so much mind about spelling mistakes, and typing errors. personally, i rarely use capital letters and am aware of it and indeed am fine about it so no need to point it out, but if you ever hear me describe that man with no hair as being bold, then kick me in the teeth.
I'll ignore the lack of caps...
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Old 22nd April 2008   #18
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ha. i even re-read it and missed that little lot. whoops.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #19
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What's really great about English is that it's a living language. No one can control it or make it the way they want it, it just develops. It has lots of variation and plural meanings and similes and different ways of saying the same thing.

Example (albeit a shite example):
Enourmous
+
Gigantic
=
Ginormous.

Now I personally wince when people say 'ginormous' but who the fuck cares? Its just snobbery that makes me hate it, like the way I think 'toilet' is a 'naff'* word and 'lavatory' isn't.

As for the errors, do you really really have nothing better to do?!
C'mon guys get a life (and it is guys, I can't see any women correcting people!)

[/2 penn'orth]

* an interesting word, naff. It means 'Not Available For F*cking', comes from that slang/patois (its got a name but I can't remember it) that the gay community used to avoid detection during the days when homosexuality was illegal.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #20
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If you're such a 'pedant' then why do you think this is a grammatical error? I hate people who missuse the word grammar.
A true pedant would have noticed that the two statements were not connected. I started the thread with a view towards general pedantry, not just spelling and grammar! ;-)
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Old 22nd April 2008   #21
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On the birth board forum that my wife frequents (all had kids Oct '06), there's a sub-group devoted to the correction/discussion of linguistic errors.

And most language teachers are women. So ner.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #22
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comes from that slang/patois (its got a name but I can't remember it) that the gay community used
Polari
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Old 22nd April 2008   #23
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As for the errors, do you really really have nothing better to do?!
Of course I don't. That's why I'm monging on an internet message board FFS. ;-)
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Old 22nd April 2008   #24
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Maybe not.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #25
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Now I personally wince when people say 'ginormous' but who the fuck cares? Its just snobbery that makes me hate it, like the way I think 'toilet' is a 'naff'* word and 'lavatory' isn't.

* an interesting word, naff. It means 'Not Available For F*cking', comes from that slang/patois (its got a name but I can't remember it) that the gay community used to avoid detection during the days when homosexuality was illegal.
Patois = slave. Naff, therefore = cool.

patois

"a provincial dialect," 1643, from Fr. [FONT=Georgia]patois[/FONT] "native or local speech," from O.Fr. [FONT=Georgia]patoier[/FONT] "handle clumsily, to paw," from [FONT=Georgia]pate[/FONT] "a paw," from V.L. [FONT=Georgia]*patta,[/FONT] perhaps imitative of the sound made by a paw. The language sense is probably from notion of clumsy manner of speaking. Especially in ref. to Jamaican English from 1934.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #26
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It's not, strictly speaking, slave, but you get where I'm going...
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Old 22nd April 2008   #27
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A true pedant would have noticed that the two statements were not connected. I started the thread with a view towards general pedantry, not just spelling and grammar! ;-)
So why did you refer to "All da grammor warrior's on 'ere" in your first sentence? What other forms of pedantry do you refer to? Mug.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #28
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It's not, strictly speaking, slave, but you get where I'm going...
All this 'slave' shit is fucking ridiuclous you smug white cycling cunts. Can't wait to you use your cool new lingo in front of the wrong person and get beatdown.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #29
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Fair point...
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Old 22nd April 2008   #30
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All this 'slave' shit is fucking ridiuclous you smug white cycling cunts. Can't wait to you use your cool new lingo in front of the wrong person and get beatdown.
methinks the lady doth protest too much
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Old 22nd April 2008   #31
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All this 'slave' shit is fucking ridiuclous you smug white cycling cunts. Can't wait to you use your cool new lingo in front of the wrong person and get beatdown.

Idiot !? :)

Who might these wrong people be ?
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Old 22nd April 2008   #32
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oi smug. you still here? go get a bike and ride it.
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Old 22nd April 2008   #33
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