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Old 24th March 2008   #1
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Happy B/Day LFGSS

I bought this bike early at the Herne Hill Good Friday meet and hope other forum users who were there saw it before I got it. (It had white walled Vittorias on at the time)
As can been seen it has been made up by Edwardes of Camberwell about two and a bit years ago but I have no idea who the frame is made by, I was told it is Italian.
I took it out this morning in the snow as a recci to find Seven Dials and the courts at Brick lane so I know where to find the Southend crew next weekend as I live in Surrey and apart from pulling the brake cable through it's mount and learning to skid very quickly, the bike behaved very well.
If you saw the bike and have any help/ideas on the frame it would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 24th March 2008   #2
pj (pj)
i saw it at herne hill. how much was it?
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Old 24th March 2008   #3
Mini..Cooper
 
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£270.
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Old 24th March 2008   #4
Mini..Cooper
 
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Have to dash out but will check back on this post in an hour or so.
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Old 24th March 2008   #5
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looks like an edwards :p
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Old 24th March 2008   #6
freddy
nope, in fact it's an edwardes...

...'tis a nice one though...
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Old 24th March 2008   #7
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ah, my mistake, you are right
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Old 24th March 2008   #8
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Cheers Guys. I should have guessed it would be written on the frame for all the world to see

To my knowledge Edwardes never built frames but did buy Guillot and even then Ron Cooper, the principal builder left Guillot/Edwardes in the late 60s.
And yes. Tis a nice one!!
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Old 24th March 2008   #9
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There are a large number of contractors in Italy who build frames for other people, i.e. Billato or Viner, as well as selling them under their own brand name. Condor still use someone in Italy although I don't know who exactly. I'm sure if you dropped into Edwardes and asked they'd tell you the frame's provenance.
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Old 24th March 2008   #10
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Cheers Andy, that was my next course of action.
Just thought that someone who was at the track might have had an idea.
Thanks
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Old 24th March 2008   #11
danger joel
i dont think its a ron cooper, he left gillott in 1967/68. plus i thought he only did lugged frames, hes now doing stuff for the witcombs apparently, so you could take it there and ask him.
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Old 24th March 2008   #12
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danger joel:i dont think its a ron cooper, he left gillott in 1967/68. plus i thought he only did lugged frames, hes now doing stuff for the witcombs apparently, so you could take it there and ask him.
You are right, it is certainly Not a Ron Cooper frame.
Cheers though
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Old 24th March 2008   #13
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But this isBut this is
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Old 24th March 2008   #14
asm
Did you get the complete bike for £270?
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Old 24th March 2008   #15
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Yup. Right place right time and right frame size. go figure.
Had been looking at a Lemond Filmore for $450 (albeit freewheel) for about a month and then because of this forum went to the track meet and voila.
Oh the tyres and tubes are new, it had vittoria 700.20 white walls on when I bought it (free to good home btw)
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Old 24th March 2008   #16
asm
white tires, they should go like hotcakes on this forum!

Yeah that's a bargain, congrats! Maybe get some straps for the pedal clips. :)
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Old 24th March 2008   #17
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I use spd's on my hybrid commuter and think I will change the rat traps for clipless. The bike had no pedals when I bought it but I convinced the guy to throw in a pair so I could ride it home to Richmond.
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Old 24th March 2008   #18
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Edwardes current alu track frames are black with the worst white screen printed logo on them. That's alot more palatable.

Re. contract builders, Caribou in Taiwan are doing 853 chromed lug frames with an $8000 minimum order. Spec your colours and geometry to order. Group buy?

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Old 24th March 2008   #19
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The frame/bike I bought would be a couple of years old if not three or four but thanks for the info. The guy I bought it from said he bought it new from Edwardes two and a half years ago and that it was Italian made. I plan to go to the shop and ask them directly.
Cheers.
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Old 24th March 2008   #20
asm
how many bikes does 8 grand get you?
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Old 24th March 2008   #21
pj (pj)
1 witcomb.
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Old 24th March 2008   #22
asm
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Old 24th March 2008   #23
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Old 24th March 2008   #24
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andyp:Condor still use someone in Italy although I don't know who exactly.
Deda
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Old 24th March 2008   #25
asm
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Old 24th March 2008   #26
pj (pj)
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Old 24th March 2008   #27
asm
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Old 24th March 2008   #28
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WTF. Is that the owl and the pussy cat.??
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Old 24th March 2008   #29
pj (pj)
...
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Old 24th March 2008   #30
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Ant:
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andyp:Condor still use someone in Italy although I don't know who exactly.
Deda
Probably not - Deda manufacture tubing, in aluminium, steel and carbon fibre, but they don't make frames to the best of my knowledge. I know they work with a few small builders, i.e. Casati, to prototype new tubesets so I don't imagine they have an in house fabrication shop.
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Old 24th March 2008   #31
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That's quite possible. The team bikes were the Scuro last year aparently which is the same as Dolan, Ribbl and Sumo sell. I do seem to remember them being made in the far east.
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Old 24th March 2008   #32
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Mini..Cooper:WTF. Is that the owl and the pussy cat.??
Very rare animal.

pj, i win. Serves you right with the garry glitter reference! : )
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Old 25th March 2008   #33
pj (pj)
i left a really unpleasant image, so unpleasant in fact, that i edited it out.

to give you a clue, i google image searched 'penis diseases'.
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Old 25th March 2008   #34
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@pj (everything that is wrong with this forum) - I saw that picture before you edited - nasty warts there....
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Old 25th March 2008   #35
pj (pj)
it was really, really horrid. unusually, i had second thoughts and removed it.

serious lake of darkness stuff. (© cornelius)
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Old 25th March 2008   #36
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lol^^
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