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Old 1st February 2008   #1
kowalski
Is it worth establishing one?

There's enough of us here to build a pretty solid database of what works to get a decent chainline, which after all is one of the biggest headaches of building a fixed wheel bike.

If everyone cuts and pastes in the manner of a ride list it will be easier to reference.

I'm suggesting noting your components in the format:

Crankset+BB+hub=your name. If you're running a similar spec just add a +1 etc.

I'll start.

Sugino 75+Miche+Formula=kowalski
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Old 1st February 2008   #2
bracestower
It works already - you've just solved my dilemma. I'll be picking up a miche BB imminently...
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Old 1st February 2008   #3
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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I think you need to add the b.b length,wheather it is jis or iso (crank and b.b because you can mix jis and iso apparently ) and the advertised chain line of hub. Most will be 42 mm I know but still useful.
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Old 1st February 2008   #4
adoubletap
 
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Sugino 75+Miche+Formula=kowalski
Sugino 75+Miche+Phil Wood=adoubletap
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Old 1st February 2008   #5
kowalski
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TheBrick(Tommy):I think you need to add the b.b length,wheather it is jis or iso (crank and b.b because you can mix jis and iso apparently ) and the advertised chain line of hub. Most will be 42 mm I know but still useful.
Agree where there is an option. But the track Miche only comes in one spec.

The format I'm suggesting avoids hypotheticals and simply states what we've found to work.

If someone enters

Sugino 75+UN54 109+Formula that's equally valid despite the taper and spindle length differing.
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Old 1st February 2008   #6
tynan
 
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You should include the cog you are using as the 'shoulder' depth varies a little.

You might also want to note the resultant chainline (good/bad/ugly) or are we only listing 'working' set ups ?

Sugino 75+HattaR9400+Shimano+EAI-cog=Tynan
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Old 1st February 2008   #7
tynan
 
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Crankset + BB + rear hub + cog = your name
__________________________________

Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = tynan
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Old 1st February 2008   #8
kowalski
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tynan:You should include the cog you are using as the 'shoulder' depth varies a little.

You might also want to note the resultant chainline (good/bad/ugly) or are we only listing 'working' set ups ?

Sugino 75+HattaR9400+Shimano+EAI-cog=Tynan
Good call on the cog.

I think just listing the working should be simplest.
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Old 1st February 2008   #9
kowalski
Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula + Condor CNC = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
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Old 1st February 2008   #10
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr [i think it's straight...:)]
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Old 1st February 2008   #11
chris crash
 
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i ride your mum, but the chain line is off.
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Old 1st February 2008   #12
hassanr
 
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that's ok, your mum's chainline is perfect!
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Old 1st February 2008   #13
chris crash
 
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dude my mom is a crack whore.
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Old 1st February 2008   #14
hassanr
 
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maybe that's why she can set up a line so straight?
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Old 1st February 2008   #15
aidan
 
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i think we should add hair style to the equation.
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Old 1st February 2008   #16
chris crash
 
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possibly, lets ask aidans sister.
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Old 1st February 2008   #17
aidan
 
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she said yep!
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Old 1st February 2008   #18
tynan
 
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aidan:i think we should add hair style to the equation.
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog + going bald = Tynan
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Old 1st February 2008   #19
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Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
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Old 1st February 2008   #20
tynan
 
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Hairstyle mr_tom ?
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Old 1st February 2008   #21
tynan
 
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
__________________________________

Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
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Old 1st February 2008   #22
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula + Condor CNC = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
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Old 1st February 2008   #23
oddsock
Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula + Condor CNC = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
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Old 1st February 2008   #24
oddsock
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chris crash:dude my mom is a crack whore.
you mean a crank whore
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Old 1st February 2008   #25
chris crash
 
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yes
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Old 1st February 2008   #26
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula + Condor CNC = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
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Old 1st February 2008   #27
justMouse
 
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
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Old 1st February 2008   #28
chris crash
 
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
__________________________________

Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood= chris crash
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Old 1st February 2008   #29
|³|MA3K
 
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood= chris crash
Stronglight+UN53/109+Sys-X+Formula= MA3K
Dura Ace+UN53/109+Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
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Old 2nd February 2008   #30
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I'm embarrassed to put mine up.
It's all second hand or cheap , but by god i tell you it's so beautifully silent!
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Old 2nd February 2008   #31
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood= chris crash
Stronglight+UN53/109+Sys-X+Formula= MA3K
Dura Ace+UN53/109+Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
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Old 2nd February 2008   #32
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word on the wood.
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Old 2nd February 2008   #33
dogsballs
 
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood= chris crash
Stronglight+UN53/109+Sys-X+Formula= MA3K
Dura Ace+UN53/109+Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
sugino 75 + campag centaur 111mm + goldtec + eai = dogsballs
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Old 2nd February 2008   #34
briankwan
Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + EAI = MrSmith
Sugino 75 + Dura Ace + Condor Goldtec + Condor CNC = Mouse
Sugino Messenger + Phil wood (103 jis) + phil wood + phil wood= chris crash
Stronglight+UN53/109+Sys-X+Formula= MA3K
Dura Ace+UN53/109+Dura Ace+Dura Ace= MA3K
Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + Phil Wood + Phil Wood = Cornelius Blackfoot
sugino 75 + campag centaur 111mm + goldtec + eai = dogsballs
campag record + campag record + royce + eai = briankwan
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Old 2nd February 2008   #35
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Crankset + BB + hub + cog = your name
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Sugino 75 + Miche + Formula = kowalski
Sugino 75 + Miche+ Phil Wood = adoubletap
Sugino 75 + Hatta R9400 + ShimanoHB7600 + EAI superstar cog = Tynan
Dura-Ace + Sugino 75 + Dura-Ace (7600) + Dura-Ace = hassanr
Sugino 75 + Sugino 75 + Phil Wood + EAI = mr_tom
Stronglight + Shimano UN73 110mm + SystemEx + EAI -2mm = mr_tom
Campag + Campag Centaur 111mm + Suzue Promax SB + EAI superstar = oddsock
miche + campag record 111m + goldtec + E