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Old 1st October 2009   #101
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I think it's a safe bet that Cat has decided she'd be better off over at Bike Radar; unless she is also researching a documentary called "When Bike Nerds Fall Out".
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Old 1st October 2009   #102
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I like this duel-carriageway thread.
'Dual' (although it's hard to tell with you, this could be some kind of advanced word play).

My rating 50%/50%.

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I think you're overstating the extent of that phenomenon; were the forum to become nothing but a reference library then yes that would be dull.
There is nothing like overstating or exaggeration to make a point - at the risk of credibility - you might have a point - but in this instance I stand by my worms.

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But as I said before when you made this analogy libraries are part of a community they are not an alternative to one.
Haha ! :D

You idiot. I am sure they are, but no one want a librarian running a pub, we want a dirty old bastard who feels up the customers and does lock-ins on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays.

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What really pisses me off is people who live next to hills who don't answer their PMs; those fuckers should be banned or baptised or something.
Been a tumultuous week, I am not exaggerating when I say I only left my house this week for the first time in 4 days, been working like a Jew/Christian/Muslim.
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Old 1st October 2009   #103
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That jew-hating homo-bashing nonce fiddler knows who he is; the fucking pet-touching freak show.

Those nonce fiddling charges were dropped, check my records.
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Old 1st October 2009   #104
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I think your having a rant for the sake of having a rant
+1

This is clearly a good place to get accounts from people who've had bikes stolen.
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Old 1st October 2009   #105
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can you imagine calling up some society or organisation saying you were researching their area of knowledge and asking for some guidance and getting told to search their fucking archive and that if this was the way you were going about your research the end result would be shit and that you were lazy and not serious....and then when som eone else stepped in and suggested that this response was a little unfriendly, their response was that it was perfectly acceptable because they are entitled to think and say what they liked and that life would be boring if people didnt.

why should the internet differ.....we are all real people - why be rude just because you are talking to a stranger you cant see. its the same mentality some car drivers have cocooned in their cars swearing at everyone etc.

i just dont like people being rude.
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Old 1st October 2009   #106
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Those nonce fiddling charges were dropped, check my records.
Glad to see you're not denying being a pet-toucher. No worries comrade; next week if you're not too busy?
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Old 1st October 2009   #107
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i began by merely saying that a) all the information requested is readily available anyway b) how are we supposed to know the legitimacy of this person anyway? c) i don't feel a documentary that is based on this kind of research would be any good.

some have taken offence at my differing opinion and feel the need to be malicious about it rather than accept we don't feel the same way and then have the audacity to moan about the increasing homogenization of the forum.
what's with the 'we' kemo sabe? you seem to be the one concerned with legitimacy, don't here anyone else bellyaching

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Old 1st October 2009   #108
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i just dont like people being rude.
You fucking fucker.
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Old 1st October 2009   #109
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Glad to see you're not denying being a pet-toucher. No worries comrade; next week if you're not too busy?
Next week should certainly less hectic work wise. (I slept in my clothes last night, like a foreign, for the whole 2 hours).
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Old 1st October 2009   #110
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I always sleep in my clothes; what else would I sleep in? My next door neighbour's clothes? A roll of chain link fencing? Oh, you mean the same clothes you wore during the day. You filthy swine. You're probably one of the people who've been paying money for Clefty's shit. Dirty.
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Old 1st October 2009   #111
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You're probably one of the people who've been paying money for Clefty's shit. Dirty.
If I keep my nose clean I will be off the register in less than 8 months.
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Old 1st October 2009   #112
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there is quite a lot of material in the various discussions here on bike locks and security.
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can you imagine calling up some society or organisation saying you were researching their area of knowledge and asking for some guidance and getting told to search their fucking archive and that if this was the way you were going about your research the end result would be shit and that you were lazy and not serious....
what, like you did? i said it was lazy to ask questions that have been answered, and that if all the research they were planning on doing was using anonymous internet sources it would be bad. i did not mean that if they followed up those sources and met people it would be bad.
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Old 1st October 2009   #113
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what, like you did? i said it was lazy to ask questions that have been answered, and that if all the research they were planning on doing was using anonymous internet sources it would be bad. i did not mean that if they followed up those sources and met people it would be bad.
Can you hear that giant sucking sound? Velo Libre can. It's the sound of all the respect anyone on here had for him going down the toilet because he wouldn't let it lie. Go to bed mate, it'll all be over in the morning.
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Old 1st October 2009   #114
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Fucking fuck !!

Dan brown had less material to go on when he wrote the Danny Davito Code.
I totally missed the boat with this book. I remember when it first came out people who had read it would look at you like you were inferior if you hadnt read it because it was so amazing. stfu velo libre. Anyway like anything else that gains popular acceptance, by the time I'd read it, people were slating it and saying it was actually shit. I fucking liked it. I still like it. I watched angels and demons on the plane and it was fucking good. I like vegemite. That attractive irish chap releasing anti-matter out of helicopter and parachuting to safety was a bit of a stretch in an otherwise plausible film thought.

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Old 1st October 2009   #115
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Shhhh shhhh, there there. rest your heavy head. Realax.

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Old 1st October 2009   #116
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It's Doctor Hostile and Mr Libre. Give it a rest mate there are plenty of us on here who've seen these kind of requests before and we're not the gullible idiots you might think.
Talking of which: I've never had a bike stolen but I do have experience of talking about myself on a national broadcast network and was even described in the Guardian (by a real journalist) as "hard not to like" so I'd be happy to take part. For the sake of your viewers you might well want to pixilate my face.
That journalist clearly didn't do his research on this internet forum, then.
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Old 1st October 2009   #117
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There have been several bikes stolen in Peel recently. Mine was not one of them.

People should really start using locks.

Times, they are a changing.
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Old 1st October 2009   #118
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what, like you did? i said it was lazy to ask questions that have been answered, and that if all the research they were planning on doing was using anonymous internet sources it would be bad. i did not mean that if they followed up those sources and met people it would be bad.
i dont really understand why you've quoted my first post or what you mean by like I did -
maybe i misunderstood your first posts too.
anyway it costs nothing to be nice and helpful, even to people who seem less so themselves
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Old 1st October 2009   #119
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bah, i am sorry this thread went so horribly wrong, i obviously misunderstood what was happening.

eyebrows has a good story about a stolen bike
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Old 1st October 2009   #120
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I totally missed the boat with this book. I remember when it first came out people who had read it would look at you like you were inferior if you hadnt read it because it was so amazing.
You should see the look on people's faces when I tell them that I have not read a book since I left school (and I am not so sure I read a whole book while I was there).
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Old 1st October 2009   #121
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bah, i am sorry this thread went so horribly wrong, i obviously misunderstood what was happening.

eyebrows has a good story about a stolen bike

That, right there, is an excellent nicked bike story.
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Old 1st October 2009   #122
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i am well aware of that,i have met quite a few of the members, and attempted north drinks last week thankyouverymuch.
I attempted north drinks once, about a year ago. And they were, as Villa-ru has espoused, cunts.

And so was that hill. But I was going up it backwards.

That's right, fuckers.

Backwards
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Old 1st October 2009   #123
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You should see the look on people's faces when I tell them that I have not read a book since I left school (and I am not so sure I read a whole book while I was there).
What bits of the Bible did you read?
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Old 1st October 2009   #124
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You should see the look on people's faces when I tell them that I have not read a book since I left school (and I am not so sure I read a whole book while I was there).
I purchased a book called Bad Science recently with the view to posting something intellectual on this very forum. Read one chapter about Homeopathy and then read Viz.
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Old 1st October 2009   #125
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Can you hear that giant sucking sound? Velo Libre can. It's the sound of all the respect anyone on here had for him going down the toilet because he wouldn't let it lie. Go to bed mate, it'll all be over in the morning.
i ever had respect? i am going to stay in mechanics and fixing for a while...

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I attempted north drinks once, about a year ago. And they were, as Villa-ru has espoused, cunts.
not quite same, i went to wrong pub.
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Old 1st October 2009   #126
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I purchased a book called Bad Science recently with the view to posting something intellectual on this very forum. Read one chapter about Homeopathy and then read Viz.
Viz rocks. I'm reading it right now on a train up to York. My favourite Top Tip this month:

INSECT PORNOGRAPHERS. Wasps make excellent shaven-haven actors when making hard-core films for bees.
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Old 1st October 2009   #127
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I purchased a book called Bad Science recently with the view to posting something intellectual on this very forum. Read one chapter about Homeopathy and then read Viz.
Goldacre is good. Donald is Good. Homeopathy is bad.
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Old 1st October 2009   #128
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What bits of the Bible did you read?
Well, I am not being entirely accurate, I must have read a handful of books over the last couple of decades, almost entirely non-fiction + a lot of holy shit.
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Old 1st October 2009   #129
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Do we get to kill any bike thieves? Preferably with guns... BTW Sharp sticks is OK, whatever the budget can handle...
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Old 1st October 2009   #130
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Old 1st October 2009   #131
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The only time Ive had a bike nicked is when I didnt lock it, it wasnt mine, and it was shit.

Its like being arrested; I deserved it in my youth(20's) many a time but its never happened.

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Old 1st October 2009   #132
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Goldacre is good.
I wouldnt really know. Fat Slags is fucking funny though.
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Old 1st October 2009   #133
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Old 1st October 2009   #134
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I wouldnt really know. Fat Slags is fucking funny though.
It's not meant to be, it's a true story you heartless bastard.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #135
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I believe London tonight did a documentry style half hour program., if no one mentioned this before PM me as I know some of the people involved in showing the silent attack methods to remove security and generally how poor gold secure and the thatcham grades are.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #136
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So, Cat posts up looking for first hand accounts of bike theft on a large London based (and elsewhere) bike forum, for the purposes of gathrering information and contacts with people who have had first had experience of bike thefts and recoveries etc. She's not lazy, she's very smart. It's one of the first things I would do if i was trying to do something similar.

After all this flaming and cold treatment by certain forum members, sorry, bike nerd cunts she probably won't bother with us and will miss out on a load of accurate and interesting info, and the docu will not be as good as it could have been. Did anyone bother to check how long she's been on the forum? Join date shown as 1st October. UTFS? Give her a break FFS. Have you seen the size of some of these threads? There are only so many hours in a day and only so many days in a budget for research prior to production. I'm sure this forum will not be her only source of information.

This is a chance to raise public and government awareness about something that is a constant menace for us all and all certain members can think about is flaming, UTFS and "you're being lazy, go and research somewhere else."

I really hope Cat is not put off by all this needless crap and actually pursues contacts via the forum.

Well done, you heartless dickheads (you know who you are).
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Old 2nd October 2009   #137
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Hi all,
Thanks for your comments. Just a note, I am towards the start of this project and the point of the thread was to go in broad and call out for helpful people to come forward and share some info. The precess obviously becomes narrower as it goes on. These forums are an invaluable resource to get the word out, and work alongside all the traditional tools of journalism and documentary research. It was from reading a string of posts on alternative threads that I approached the fgss admin for permission to post this one.
I live close to Brick Lane and am no stranger to bike theft. And because of a relationship with a bike fanatic, nor am I complete stranger to bike culture. BUT, I do think it's quite a closed world and that it's important to speak as many people as possible in it to get leads and threads. I really appreciate those who've messaged me in this respect.
I will be down on Brick Lane on Sunday with a researcher, so if anyone is heading over there, they should PM me and I can arrange.
For a bit of background info. I'm a producer with October Films, one of the UK's most respected and well-established documentary production companies. A little more information can be found here www.octoberfilms.co.uk
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Old 2nd October 2009   #138
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b) how are we supposed to know the legitimacy of this person anyway?
At last you make a good point. There used to be someone on this forum enticing people to all parts of London with a promise to "take their photo" - if only we'd stopped to consider instead of letting vanity get the better of us.....

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What really pisses me off is people who live next to hills who don't answer their PMs; those fuckers should be banned or baptised or something.
Along with those who make you "befriend" them before they'll accept your PMs. Eh? ;^)
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Old 2nd October 2009   #139
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Can I just say it really suck that this thread was derailed. It would have been really great if the forum could have clubbed together and given Cat all the info she needs to get her programme of the ground.
I hope she dosn't look back at this thread and think we are bunch of twats. It would be a shame if this documentry doesn't use the resources this forum has to offer.
She hasn't posted since she started the thread, lets hope she comes back.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #140
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*cough* 2 postings up *cough*
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Old 2nd October 2009   #141
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Sakky - you said that you didn't bump your head when you came off, didn't you?
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Old 2nd October 2009   #142
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crap maybe i did bump my head, but also thats what happens when you derail threads i got tired of reading all the crap and decided to post. reading fail. . . crap
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Old 2nd October 2009   #143
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Lots of crap there!

I agree with your sentiment though, it would've been good if we'd helped out Cat rather than going off on one. Bike crime affects too many of us.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #144
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I'd be unsurprised if we didn't make it to approx £100,000 if we totalled up all of the bikes we have had stolen.

For example Scott's Big Link was 5K all on it's own.

It's a huge issue/source of revenue for malefactors, yet seems to be almost completely ignored by the Police.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #145
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You do Sun Sea and A&E... I love that programme!! Seriously.. .if you are ever having a down day, watch that... its impossible to watch pikeys and not feel happy about yourself
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Old 2nd October 2009   #146
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Welcome octoberf.

Good luck with the programme. I feel its really good time to be doing cycle subjects, what with all the Skyrides and bus stop posters and guided rides to work, but no state investment in cycling through active police priority in this theft matter ... nor the matters of attacks with or from vehicles, dangerous and without-due-care driving leading to harrasssment, injury and deaths of cyclists on our roads.

Actually, if, in your development of the programme, you might get interested in this: http://www.seemesaveme.com/blog/
It originated from a meeting organised here: http://www.londonfgss.com/thread29719-7.html

I am tangenting for a reason: I know you asked about theft, but put simply, heavy goods vehicles and cyclists is a much better subject to cover :)

But if you're still on theft: on piece of advice, it would be good if there was good information in the programme about how best to lock up - I see a lot of badly locked bikes around very prone to theft...

Hope you can come along to a social or ride event and meet some people. The Rollapalooza racing things are a good start (they are riding and very social in one - some of the 'night rides' we run are too, the South/SE/North/East/West beers (most nights), or go to a polo game ... get involved!). It can't be stressed enough (though andyp did mention it earlier) to anyone arriving here that this place is a bit special and isn't like forums where no-one ever meets, other than 'electronically'. A lot of us here are mates in a sprawling interconnected network of groups at one or two degrees of separation. Close knit and really remarkably civilised, in other words.

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Old 2nd October 2009   #147
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Channelling MrScoble.
I so want there to be a Scobleisms thread but I don't want to be the one to start it...
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Old 2nd October 2009   #148
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I so want there to be a Scobleisms thread but I don't want to be one to start it...
Deafist, SuperP, you should be ashamed of yourself, thought.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #149
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Welcome octoberf.

Good luck with the programme. I feel its really good time to be doing cycle subjects, what with all the Skyrides and bus stop posters and guided rides to work, but no state investment in cycling through active police priority in this theft matter ... nor the matters of attacks with or from vehicles, dangerous and without-due-care driving leading to harrasssment, injury and deaths of cyclists on our roads.

Actually, if, in your development of the programme, you might get interested in this: http://www.seemesaveme.com/blog/
It originated from a meeting organised here: http://www.londonfgss.com/thread29719-7.html

I am tangenting for a reason: I know you asked about theft, but put simply, heavy goods vehicles and cyclists is a much better subject to cover :)

But if you're still on theft: on piece of advice, it would be good if there was good information in the programme about how best to lock up - I see a lot of badly locked bikes around very prone to theft...
Maybe two differing programs? But it also requires people to watch and take notice.
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Old 2nd October 2009   #150
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Along with those who make you "befriend" them before they'll accept your PMs. Eh? ;^)
that was a temporary measure to stop one especially egregious numpty pestering me. And as soon as I changed my settings he started again....
(it wasn't Hippy by the way).
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