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Old 17th July 2007   #301
oddsock
came across this beauty on my weekly (ok, daily) trawl for Tommasinis and had to share...

pity about the risers though.
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Old 18th July 2007   #302
big mummy smeear
thats one of the lovelys that i go on velospace to drool over
theres a couple of tommasinis on there
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Old 18th July 2007   #303
essbee
I wish this was mine


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Old 18th July 2007   #304
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Oooh. Suit you sir.
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Old 18th July 2007   #305
eeehhhh
I don't get the narrow handlebars that seem to be so popular.

:-/
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Old 18th July 2007   #306
essbee
Bin the riser, replace them with drops and that thing is all good!
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Old 18th July 2007   #307
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eeehhhh:I don't get the narrow handlebars that seem to be so popular.

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well, if you think about how close your hands can go when you ride on the flats of a dropbar, there's no need to have them much wider than that. it offers only one hand position though.

personally , I like getting down on the drops, they are so nice..nitto b123aa, better than sex with a midget.
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Old 18th July 2007   #308
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... better than sex with a midget.
what?! NOTHING is better than sex with a midget.
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Old 18th July 2007   #309
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only if you're a midget yourself...and the other midget has a tray of coke on it's head..
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Old 18th July 2007   #310
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eeehhhh:I don't get the narrow handlebars that seem to be so popular.

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well, if you think about how close your hands can go when you ride on the flats of a dropbar, there's no need to have them much wider than that. it offers only one hand position though.
yeah but personally I can't get any oomph into the pedals with my hands so close together, or even
have good control at low speed. Is it just a matter of getting used to it or is to do with the
geometry at the front of the bike?
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Old 18th July 2007   #311
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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It's all about the guns!

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Old 18th July 2007   #312
Hovis Brown
 
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tommy. stop posting my pic on the internet! and who is that guy with the blue shirt?
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Old 18th July 2007   #313
aidan
 
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i watch a program about that bloke,hes a right f**k up taking all kinds of steroids........now look at this loser,he must have some real issues:)

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Old 18th July 2007   #314
RPM
 
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I doubt he's still alive..that's a way to mess yourself up fo sure
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Old 18th July 2007   #315
Stef
 
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how did he get his veins to become simmetrical?
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Old 18th July 2007   #316
aidan
 
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cos hes a freak!
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Old 18th July 2007   #317
Stef
 
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and hod did he get his pants to crease simmetrically?
has he got 2 knobs?
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Old 18th July 2007   #318
aidan
 
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deffenatly a freak
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Old 18th July 2007   #319
Stef
 
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he looks happy......hehehe
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Old 19th July 2007   #320
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Those pics show what happens when you use chopped risers instead of drops..
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Old 19th July 2007   #321
eeehhhh
I saw that program too that Aidan mentioned... He kept injected directly into his arm and eventually it had this huge tumour or something in it, so he just drained it with a syringe and **loads** of blood just kept coming out. Channel 5 marketed that as his arm "exploding", haha. Rubbish documentary though!

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eeehhhh:I don't get the narrow handlebars that seem to be so popular.

:-/
well, if you think about how close your hands can go when you ride on the flats of a dropbar, there's no need to have them much wider than that. it offers only one hand position though.

personally , I like getting down on the drops, they are so nice..nitto b123aa, better than sex with a midget.
I disagree... The tops of a dropbar aren't designed for proper, "I'm pedalling quite hard to go fast" riding, they're just an upright position for tootling along.

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eeehhhh:I don't get the narrow handlebars that seem to be so popular.

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well, if you think about how close your hands can go when you ride on the flats of a dropbar, there's no need to have them much wider than that. it offers only one hand position though.
yeah but personally I can't get any oomph into the pedals with my hands so close together, or even
have good control at low speed. Is it just a matter of getting used to it or is to do with the
geometry at the front of the bike?
Yeah I'm like that. I find my current flat bars too wide though, and that I have to move my hands in a couple of cm to get the perfect leverage. Afterall the idea of the bars is to lock your body in a position so your legs can push into the pedals rather than push your body up and down.

I bet people with the tiny bars are crap at climbing.
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Old 19th July 2007   #322
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aidan:i watch a program about that bloke,hes a right f**k up taking all kinds of steroids........now look at this loser,he must have some real issues:)
Vid of arm guy "draining" his bicep pus (god bless the internet!)
http://www.uneasysilence.com/archive/2006/05/6498/
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Old 19th July 2007   #323
aidan
 
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its sick!! im not watching that again....it gave me nightmares the first time....this time i may resort to steriods:(
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Old 19th July 2007   #324
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Old 19th July 2007   #325
aidan
 
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ben i think thats more porn then bike
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Old 19th July 2007   #326
photoben
 
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There's a bike in the picture!
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Old 19th July 2007   #327
aidan
 
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true that is:)
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Old 19th July 2007   #328
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if you think about how close your hands can go when you ride on the flats of a dropbar, there's no need to have them much wider than that. it offers only one hand position though.

personally , I like getting down on the drops, they are so nice..nitto b123aa, better than sex with a midget.
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I disagree... The tops of a dropbar aren't designed for proper, "I'm pedalling quite hard to go fast" riding, they're just an upright position for tootling along.
you disagree with what? you seem to be inventing your own argument.
I didn't say the tops were useful for "I'm pedalling quite hard to go fast" riding, did I?
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Old 20th July 2007   #329
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it's about getting used to it i think.
i can ride fast enough with my hands right next to the stem.
and for turning it's more about leaning yourself + your bike and not really twisting your bar, especially considering the fact that my stem is rather long (125mm)
only problem is you lose your aero edge.

on the other hand i don't get why your bars need to be that wide for urban riding. i actually don't feel comfortable with wide bars. widest i feel comfortable are the width of my shoulders. wider ones they're alright with an mtb or any other bike with upright positions but just not with road/track bikes because of the weight distribution.

i once had a guy riding a cruiser in front of me during rush hour. his bars were almost a metre wide. not to say overtaking him is a pain amongst moving traffic he looks like an absolute idiot with his low saddle.
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Old 20th July 2007   #330
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I bet people with the tiny bars are crap at climbing.
not sure about this comment either.
a lot of kids climb with wide bars pedalling out of their saddle rocking their bike left and right. that's an absolute waste of energy. it always seems to me that the wider the bars, the larger the rocking magnitude.

and efficient rider can climb a hill with his bum in the saddle and ride straight up without rocking his bike.
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Old 20th July 2007   #331
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Not all climbs can be made sat down in the saddle, especially not racing. You need to get out of the saddle to respond to attacks, to attack, to use different muscles in order to rest the seated climbing muscles, etc.
Even the best climbers rock a certain amount, especially going up something massive. Holding the bike dead still while out of the saddle isn't more efficient - you're then wasting energy stabilising the bike that should be saved for your legs.
Wider bars are also better for expanding the lungs and allowing more oxygen in, making it easier to breathe.
The local 14yo on their BMX rocking excessively side-to-side isn't a fair comparison. Risers are silly and hand-width risers are even sillier. It's not illegal though so carry on :)
Sprinting is also very difficult using cut bars and you wont be setting any records..
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Old 20th July 2007   #332
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you've got your point hippy but i'm not really a racer i do tend to keep my bum on the saddle on climbs. not those hard ones though.
i stopped being a masher since i started riding fixed. and my point is that it's more about the rider than the bars if we are to consider climbing.

by the way i've got 3 bikes all have drops and i have another 2 drop bars sitting in my room ;)

narrow risers are useful for tricks though. basically the only practical thing for doing bar flips (ok ok i know...). i'm also considering them for my polo bike i'm building because drops do get in the way of the mallet.
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Old 21st July 2007   #333
hippy
 
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True. The only time you'll see me bar-spinning is when I crash and the bars swivel around :)
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Old 21st July 2007   #334
essbee
Dumb and Dumber
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