Bike porn - Page 67 - London Fixed-gear and Single-speed

sohi · 13th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Snapper

that bike looks rubbish

Pistanator · 13th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Snapper

Cumbucket!

eyebrows · 13th June 2008

dogmatic · 13th June 2008

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Originally Posted by dogsballs

what turns on a velodrome?

uhm yeah you got me there... though probably this isn't being ridden on a velodrome...

asm · 13th June 2008

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Originally Posted by eyebrows

Mmmmmm, flying gate

... and boobies.

Archi Pelago · 13th June 2008

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Originally Posted by asm

Mmmmmm, flying gate

... and boobies.

first rate bike porn! But what order. I'd personally go left to right ;)

JOL · 13th June 2008

I think that was a day in Melbourne when the underwear label my lady was designing for was doing a catwalk show in town.

Mmmm Kenevans.

3 - 2 - 1

Archi Pelago · 13th June 2008

hmm, or maybe middle, left, right...decisions, decisions!

dogsballs · 13th June 2008

right is defo last, middle first, left 2nd!

BRM · 13th June 2008

JOL · 13th June 2008

I think 3 is deceptive. I'll see if the lady has more pics.

Walkersan · 14th June 2008

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Originally Posted by squag

why?? i think it looks real tight, in fact probably as tight as possible, nice lugs etc.

from a framebuilders POV, that bike is nothing exciting and poorly designed. It has a very steep seat tube angle, even steeper headtube angle and minimal rake (which is the highlight of the build, because it quite possibly matches the headtube angle to give the bike a proper "trail" measurement) and as far as I can tell, it doesnt have just toe clip overlap, it looks like its more pedal overlap. The wheelbase is too short and imho, that bike is too unstable at high speeds. The lugs are a stock lug for that set of tubes, however, the shorelines look ok.

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Originally Posted by Pistanator

And he's Scottish/American so he's obviously got no style or taste

My ethnicity has nothing to do with my style or taste. just ask your mom, it didnt bother her....

OUCH, thats going to leave a mark....

DW

Superprecise · 14th June 2008

2 - 3 - 1

lpg · 14th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Walkersan

My ethnicity has nothing to do with my style or taste. just ask your mom, it didnt bother her....

ooooo ;)

tomasito · 15th June 2008

It won't be porn for everone but I though this 14 speed hub was very cool:

Less cool is the owner's shirt:

sam814 · 15th June 2008

i used to work for a very large dealer of those rohloff hubs.. very nice but pricey..around £700...and they fit them into heavy touring bikes so its like riding a train.

anyone seen the cannondale badboy rohloff? mmmm

VelocityBoy · 15th June 2008

I'm putting a Rohloff onto my next bike. Pricey yes, but I think the pro's outweigh the few con's that exist (price, weight distribution).

danger joel · 15th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Walkersan

from a framebuilders POV, that bike is nothing exciting and poorly designed. It has a very steep seat tube angle, even steeper headtube angle and minimal rake (which is the highlight of the build, because it quite possibly matches the headtube angle to give the bike a proper "trail" measurement) and as far as I can tell, it doesnt have just toe clip overlap, it looks like its more pedal overlap. The wheelbase is too short and imho, that bike is too unstable at high speeds. The lugs are a stock lug for that set of tubes, however, the shorelines look ok.

My ethnicity has nothing to do with my style or taste. just ask your mom, it didnt bother her....

OUCH, thats going to leave a mark....

DW

this is from dave moultons bike blog

" Therefore, I maintain the opinion that toe overlap on a bicycle is neither a design fault nor a problem."

" Toe overlap is a result of other critical design factors and cannot always be avoided especially on smaller frames."

"Toe overlap is not a problem because riding and cornering at normal speed the front wheel never turns far enough for the toe to hit the front wheel."

heres the actual blog if you want to see the context and other stuff about why toe overlap doesnt mean poorly designed bike.

http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/20...o-problem.html

provenrad · 15th June 2008

I don't think that it was suggested toe overlap was the only problem with that frame.
Bikes have to be made as experiments sometimes - that is a really tight frame.
looks nice, rides?

VelocityBoy · 15th June 2008

Oh my. That is stupid.

Why on earth do you need valves that long?

And he's laced up the wheel wrong to have put the valves (rim alignment) in that position.

lpg · 15th June 2008

DW is right. That bike might be fun for about 5 minutes, but it is unrideable and impractical. Extremely short wheelbase + hardly any fork rake = way too twitchy. His hands will be in front of the front hub, his legs directly above the BB.

h2o · 15th June 2008

It's always possible to overdo things.

That bike reminds me of this muppet.

Overdone it to the point of no longer being fit for purpose. I doubt he could scratch the back of his head if he tried.

squag · 15th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Walkersan

from a framebuilders POV, that bike is nothing exciting and poorly designed. It has a very steep seat tube angle, even steeper headtube angle and minimal rake (which is the highlight of the build, because it quite possibly matches the headtube angle to give the bike a proper "trail" measurement) and as far as I can tell, it doesnt have just toe clip overlap, it looks like its more pedal overlap. The wheelbase is too short and imho, that bike is too unstable at high speeds. The lugs are a stock lug for that set of tubes, however, the shorelines look ok.

A touche, should have known better than to question a frame builder of all people ; )

99wombats · 15th June 2008

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Originally Posted by dogsballs

what turns on a velodrome?

bike porn, obviously

Walkersan · 16th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by danger joel

this is from dave moultons bike blog

" Therefore, I maintain the opinion that toe overlap on a bicycle is neither a design fault nor a problem."

" Toe overlap is a result of other critical design factors and cannot always be avoided especially on smaller frames."

"Toe overlap is not a problem because riding and cornering at normal speed the front wheel never turns far enough for the toe to hit the front wheel."

heres the actual blog if you want to see the context and other stuff about why toe overlap doesnt mean poorly designed bike.

http://davesbikeblog.blogspot.com/20...o-problem.html

The pedal overlap is only one of the design flaws on this bike. If this bikes purpose was to be a match sprint bike, then the designer really missed the mark. Match sprinters often need to turn the bars at slow speeds while jockeying for position.

Again, the wheelbase on that bike is way too tight to be effective for any track event I am aware of....

DW

Pistanator · 16th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkersan

from a framebuilders POV, that bike is nothing exciting and poorly designed. It has a very steep seat tube angle, even steeper headtube angle and minimal rake (which is the highlight of the build, because it quite possibly matches the headtube angle to give the bike a proper "trail" measurement) and as far as I can tell, it doesnt have just toe clip overlap, it looks like its more pedal overlap. The wheelbase is too short and imho, that bike is too unstable at high speeds. The lugs are a stock lug for that set of tubes, however, the shorelines look ok.

My ethnicity has nothing to do with my style or taste. just ask your mom, it didnt bother her....

OUCH, thats going to leave a mark....

DW

Your hilarious mate. A grown man with kids and he's still doing the 'Your mum' jokes. Sad cunt!
Sticks and stones mate, sticks and stones....

teenslain · 16th June 2008

Calm down ladies... ;)

Walkersan · 16th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Pistanator

Your hilarious mate. A grown man with kids and he's still doing the 'Your mum' jokes. Sad cunt!
Sticks and stones mate, sticks and stones....

hey, I respond to your adolescent jabs in kind. Its not the first time you have gone "on the offensive" with me. btw, calling someone a "cunt" is fighting words where i come from....

and the entire limmerick goes as follows...

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me.

kisses!

DW

dogsballs · 16th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Walkersan

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me.

hippy is of the same lines!

haj · 16th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkersan

from a framebuilders POV, that bike is nothing exciting and poorly designed. It has a very steep seat tube angle, even steeper headtube angle and minimal rake (which is the highlight of the build, because it quite possibly matches the headtube angle to give the bike a proper "trail" measurement) and as far as I can tell, it doesnt have just toe clip overlap, it looks like its more pedal overlap. The wheelbase is too short and imho, that bike is too unstable at high speeds. The lugs are a stock lug for that set of tubes, however, the shorelines look ok.

I don't think it looks that different in the angles compared to other trackbikes, but we can all agree that it was build up pretty poorly (laced up wrong wheels, and the valves being long, and the cranks look really long as well)

The angles look a bit more aggressive due to the photo not being horizontal.
Top tube looks to be a bit short and with longer cranks (175mm perhaps) overlap will get worse. Overlap is not (that big) a problem on the streets as long as you're used to it, and I don't see it being a problem on the track.

Walkersan · 16th June 2008

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Originally Posted by Pistanator

Your hilarious mate.

I missed this earlier. But the proper "english" would be as follows;

You're hiliarious, mate.

When stating someone is something with the word "you", as in, "you are funny", the apostrophe is used with "re" after the apostrophe. "You are" becomes "You're".
"Your" is a possessive, as in "Your dog is barking". The dog is mine, so it is "your" in this type of instance.

Good comma usage is also key to this sentence. Otherwise, it doesnt have the impact you intended.

btw, I have a Masters degree in sarcasm...

Have yourself a great day!

DW

13th June 2008	#3311
BRM	yep.
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15th June 2008	#3320
provenrad	I don't think that it was suggested toe overlap was the only problem with that frame. Bikes have to be made as experiments sometimes - that is a really tight frame. looks nice, rides? Last edited by provenrad; 15th June 2008 at 12:07.. Reason: added picture.
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13th June 2008	#3308
JOL	I think that was a day in Melbourne when the underwear label my lady was designing for was doing a catwalk show in town. Mmmm Kenevans. 3 - 2 - 1
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13th June 2008	#3309
Archi Pelago	hmm, or maybe middle, left, right...decisions, decisions!
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13th June 2008	#3310
dogsballs	right is defo last, middle first, left 2nd!
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13th June 2008	#3312
JOL	I think 3 is deceptive. I'll see if the lady has more pics.
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15th June 2008	#3316
tomasito	It won't be porn for everone but I though this 14 speed hub was very cool: Less cool is the owner's shirt:
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15th June 2008	#3317
sam814	i used to work for a very large dealer of those rohloff hubs.. very nice but pricey..around £700...and they fit them into heavy touring bikes so its like riding a train. anyone seen the cannondale badboy rohloff? mmmm
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15th June 2008	#3318
VelocityBoy	I'm putting a Rohloff onto my next bike. Pricey yes, but I think the pro's outweigh the few con's that exist (price, weight distribution).
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15th June 2008	#3321
VelocityBoy	Oh my. That is stupid. Why on earth do you need valves that long? And he's laced up the wheel wrong to have put the valves (rim alignment) in that position.
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15th June 2008	#3322
lpg	DW is right. That bike might be fun for about 5 minutes, but it is unrideable and impractical. Extremely short wheelbase + hardly any fork rake = way too twitchy. His hands will be in front of the front hub, his legs directly above the BB.
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15th June 2008	#3323
h2o	It's always possible to overdo things. That bike reminds me of this muppet. Overdone it to the point of no longer being fit for purpose. I doubt he could scratch the back of his head if he tried.
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16th June 2008	#3328
teenslain	Calm down ladies... ;)
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