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Old 20th May 2007   #1
the-smiling-buddha
 
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This poor guy just logged in to report his brand new bike was stolen

'Stolen Lemond Fillmore'

So in the interest of bolting the barndoor after the horse has bolted

what is the best bike lock

I have an ABUS d-lock for motorcycles

http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLang=us&sid=18641299016243620052007 194311815&select=0104b01&artikel=4003318229756

Bloody thing weighs more than the bike itself

Then I have one of these

http://www.abus.de/us/main.asp?ScreenLang=us&sid=18641299016243620052007 194311815&select=0104b11&artikel=4003318335679

Handy but I don't know how strong it is also someone knocked my bike down and this lock scratched the paint on my tope tube

and then I have one similiar to this

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?cid=1001&scid=1002&pid=1170

which I use everywhere because it is heavy duty

and I can carry it easily on my hips
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Old 20th May 2007   #2
dicki
i never have my bike more than 6ft away from me the best lock EVER

paranoid i guess
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Old 20th May 2007   #3
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dicki:i never have my bike more than 6ft away from me the best lock EVER
paranoid i guess
"smart" i'd say
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Old 20th May 2007   #4
the-smiling-buddha
 
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yeah but what if you need to go to the shops..?
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Old 20th May 2007   #5
siman
 
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My local threshers are used to me pushing the bike in the shop now. Most shops don't mind, and the ones that do don't get your custom!
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Old 20th May 2007   #6
lpg
 
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d-locks all the way.
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Old 20th May 2007   #7
31t®um
 
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just got a small kryptonite d-lock, i like it
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Old 20th May 2007   #8
Stef
 
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the best lock is 2 locks...possibly different from each other.
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Old 20th May 2007   #9
hippy
 
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Lock it in view of the shop you're going into.
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Old 20th May 2007   #10
Stef
 
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chains are shit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck
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Old 21st May 2007   #11
eeehhhh
u locks are the best.

cycling plus had a review last month on locks - the only lock that lasted more than 10 minutes of attack was the kryptonite new york 3000 - i've got it and it looks bloody solid.

the kryptonite new york chain was broken in 8 minutes. cable locks are crap; cut through even the best one's with a battery powered tool in a couple of min.

the worry thing was that a lot of the locks, when they were under manual attack, i.e. by hand, actually ended up damaging the frame more than the lock 8-|

i dunno if anyone else has the ny 3000 but i actually find it a bit too big, especially with skinny tyres. if you had a beefy mountain bike it'd be better. kryptonite make a new york fahgettaboudit that's smaller but i couldn't find it anywhere :(
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Old 21st May 2007   #12
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yeah thats why I went for the mini orange one. I wanted to get the 3000 but could not be bothered with such a big lock.
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Old 21st May 2007   #13
hippy
 
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I use one of the Krypto D locks. Not the heaviest ones, the next down (orange).
These are just a deterrant against oppurtunists and I still think the best defence is not leaving bikes locked too far away for too long.
It's a pain slinging a kilo or more of D lock in my bag so I only use it for short trips to the shops (can lockup outside my supermarket).
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Old 21st May 2007   #15
the-smiling-buddha
 
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Can you carry this on your hips..?
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Old 21st May 2007   #16
pip
You can wear Krypto chains quite easily around yer wasit.

The trick is either to shorten them yourself or attach a loop such as a large metal keyring or old toestrap to one of the links which you can lock through to shorten the chain when carrying around waist.
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Old 21st May 2007   #17
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if i had the money i would go for the krypto chain, alows you to lock around more stuff then my mini d-lock. also i think checking on your bike every 10 mins or less is good i you want to have it plus all its bits.
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Old 21st May 2007   #18
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the mini D lock is great, but I also carry an armoured cable in case I need to get round something big, it can go through the d lock.

with a padlock it gives me two seperate locks if needed, and not much weight to drag.

though I never leave the bike out of sight for very long...
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Old 21st May 2007   #19
eeehhhh
yeah, the mini d does look good. i'm ridiculously paranoid though, hence i got the 3000. the fahgettaboudit is a nice compromise



i think at uni i might have to leave my bike out overnight :( no where indoors, halls don't allow bikes in side. probably end up with a 2/3 u locks and and a krypto chain :P
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Old 21st May 2007   #20
runcible rakan
 
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What about Abus' d-locks or city chain? Anyone use those?

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Old 22nd May 2007   #21
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eeehhhh:i think at uni i might have to leave my bike out overnight :( no where indoors, halls don't allow bikes in side. probably end up with a 2/3 u locks and and a krypto chain :P
Don't leave it out side overnight reguarly it will be nicked. If the halls are really that arsey get your self a bike bag (one with out padding is cheap £30) and put it in there. Or just "Hide it" under a sheet in your room. As long as you are descreate, cearful about chipping paint on door ways leaving mud / oil everywhere e.t.c you should be o.k. If you are nice to your cleaners and keep your room ok other wise they will be cool. Bring your bike up after a week or two after you have sused out the situation. Only lock a real beater outside overnight reguarly that you don't mind being stolen.

The krypto chain can be broken in a 1 min or so check out the vid.
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Old 22nd May 2007   #22
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TheBrick:
The krypto chain can be broken in a 1 min or so check out the vid.
Wasn't too sure which version of the chain they were actually using. Anyone know? It didn't look like the newer Krypto fug chains which are hexagonal. It looked rounder but then I may be just trying to console myself as I hated seeing how easily all these chains were cut.
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Old 22nd May 2007   #23
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i think they ALL can be cut, look at the video....best thing is, to keep an eye on it.
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Old 22nd May 2007   #24
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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I don't know what version they just said the fagetaboutit chain or what ever it is called. They did also cut through several hexagonal chains as well.

What ever it is security is only a deterant bla bla bla ... two locks of diffrent types bla bla bla .. don't leve for extended periods (like over night) bla bla bla .. you know the rest.

I am sure it is all grand mother+ eggs and all.

I hate bike thiefs (actually I am nt too keen on any thief).
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Old 22nd May 2007   #25
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bolt cutters are not gonna get through a d-lock. You either need to smash the thick part off with a baseball bat or something, pick the lock, or use power tools. Most bike thieves are kids with croppers, who do not have power tools, and probably wont have the balls to spend 2mins sawing through it, specially in a public area.
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Old 22nd May 2007   #26
eeehhhh
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TheBrick:Don't leave it out side overnight reguarly it will be nicked. If the halls are really that arsey get your self a bike bag (one with out padding is cheap £30) and put it in there. Or just "Hide it" under a sheet in your room. As long as you are descreate, cearful about chipping paint on door ways leaving mud / oil everywhere e.t.c you should be o.k. If you are nice to your cleaners and keep your room ok other wise they will be cool. Bring your bike up after a week or two after you have sused out the situation. Only lock a real beater outside overnight reguarly that you don't mind being stolen.

The krypto chain can be broken in a 1 min or so check out the vid.
That's a good idea - I didn't think of a bag! I really want to ride whilst at uni - I think i'd go crazy without it :-|
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Old 23rd May 2007   #27
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would this fit around the back wheel/frame?

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Old 23rd May 2007   #28
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Doesn't look like it would fit around anything. Isn't that designed to go through the disk of a brake on a motorcycle? If so, it's too small to be of use on a bike unless you want to put it through your crank/chainring and hope that no-one simply picks your bike up.
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Old 23rd May 2007   #29
Momentum
Anyone who wants a cheap and relatively secure mini d-lock can check out discount bicycles, which has the onguard mini bulldog for "20 or so, and then ride to their industrial unit in Brixton and buy it without the P&P. The lock is ok rather than amazing (soldsecure silver) but is a handy size and a good back up lock.

I use the Abus Granit steel-o-flex cable which is good for getting round oversized lamposts etc. and a pitlock skewer on my front wheel.
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Old 23rd May 2007   #30
lpg
 
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You can get those mini pitbulls for £14.99 (inc. postage) from here

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=19088
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Old 23rd May 2007   #31
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i got paid $10 for my mini ongaurd lock... its a long story, but basicly it envolves buying it on sale, breaking it, and returning it for normal priced replace ment, and the clerk gave me $10 cash!
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Old 23rd May 2007   #32
lardy
Ive got one of the krypto leave and forget locks. Which i leave and forget outside work over night till i need it in the morning. The damn thing has started to seize up inside with rust now though. Im going to bung some light oil down there tonight but i have to yank it to get it off which leads to some interesting looks.
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Old 23rd May 2007   #33
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Who was looking for a fahgetaboutit d-lock? Its here:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=18394

If i hadnt just blown the cash on a cheap new bike i would get one :(
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Old 23rd May 2007   #34
eeehhhh
i was, but bought the new york 3000 'cause no lbs had it and i needed a lock there and then.

sucks that the fahgettaboudit is the same price that I paid for the 3000, even thought he fahgettaboudit is allegedly better. :-/
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Old 24th May 2007   #35
jhclare
Hi all, this is my first post on this great site!

Does anyone use Sheldon Brown's lock strategy?

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html

I've asked this in another forum recently and someone mentioned that bolt cutters could easily go through the rear wheel and tire....

John
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Old 24th May 2007   #36
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