London Fixed-gear and Single-speed SJS Cycles

mahalo · 22nd May 2009

Hi,
I found this frame a makino njs. He wants to sell this frame for 780€.
Is it a good price or I have to expect less.
He said that is like new and have no dents.

what are you thinking about this?
thankyou

eddie · 22nd May 2009

how about shipping? don't they take like $120 for export and plus whatever the customs will charge you as well when it arrives to UK.

nice frame, but a bit of a steep price.

mahalo · 22nd May 2009

I am in France and the guy said that the frame is in France In my town, so no shipping cost, no taxes.

town · 22nd May 2009

...paying top dollar!
and a whole lot more to get it on the road!

do it :)

eyebrows · 22nd May 2009

make sure you go pick up the frame, and pay cash, as those photos are taken straight off the web, and are in Japan.

town · 22nd May 2009

have a look on here for prices: http://njs-keirin.blogspot.com/

rocker9455 · 22nd May 2009

good advice 'brows

edmundro · 22nd May 2009

sounds fishy to me, is that frame still on njs-keirin as being for sale or in the exported section?

town · 22nd May 2009

...it's showing on http://njs-keirin.blogspot.com/ as exported to Paris!

Pistanator · 22nd May 2009

Sounds dodgy! Is it Gabe selling it off the website above ^ or some other fella selling it in France that already bought it from the website and he's re-selling??

Gabe who runs that site is based in NYC but his mate in Japan ships the frames worldwide

rocker9455 · 22nd May 2009

sounds a littleless fishy now!

edmundro · 22nd May 2009

Email gabe with the pics, no doubt he'll know where the frame was last sold to/is in his storage

edit: i see town has confirmed its location. i'll shut up now

Pistanator · 22nd May 2009

gabrielxsalem@gmail.com

Pistanator · 22nd May 2009

So we've established it's in Paris(?) and you only have to go and pick it up? Therefore 780E is a bit steep if you ask me, I'd say closer to 500/600E would be closer to the mark

mahalo · 22nd May 2009

thanks for your advices.
He said that i could see the frame on june and the frame is in Paris.
I will email Gabe, maybe the guy bought with him and want to sell it. He probably used the old photos...

Pistanator · 22nd May 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by mahalo

maybe the guy bought with him and want to sell it. He probably used the old photos...

Sounds about right BUT 780E is too much in my opinion(i assume just for the frame and forks, headset, BB?)

town · 22nd May 2009

yeah deffo expensive! If you've got your heart set on NJS - Tokyofixedgear have a couple on ebay at the mo for cheap and they post to europe for only £14 (search njs frames)

Pistanator · 22nd May 2009

£14 postage to Europe? Shit, who with??

town · 22nd May 2009

...the frames are in london!

Pistanator · 22nd May 2009

I know but even so, that's WELLLLLL cheap, I sent a wheel/box weighing less than 1.5kg to France, using Parcelforce and it cost me £62!!

mahalo · 23rd May 2009

I received an e-mail from Gabe, He doesn't know he can't remember....

tokyofixedgear · 17th June 2009

Interlink, road service. £14 flat rate!

Pistanator · 17th June 2009

Nice one, how long does it take? A week?

motoko · 4th July 2009

Just reviving this thread.

Does anyone think that this frame is worth the $550 which he is asking for it? It does have a dent in the top tube.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110407841843

I was gonna message the guy as the item didn't sell and see if I could make a deal.

el squire · 4th July 2009

The kind of money you're going to spend on buying it, shipping it and then import tax could be put to much better use. So....

Are you in London?

Yes?

Get yourself to Tour De Ville and pick up something nice, possibly something Italian.

No?

Keep on searching.

motoko · 4th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by el squire

The kind of money you're going to spend on buying it, shipping it and then import tax could be put to much better use. So....

Are you in London?

Yes?

Get yourself to Tour De Ville and pick up something nice, possibly something Italian.

No?

Keep on searching.

I am in the states and so is the frame. So tax etc isn't so much an issue

el squire · 4th July 2009

Fair enough, I think you money would be better invested elsewhere.

For the money you're spending I think you could do better than a dented NJS frame.

Chances are that it's been crashed and the frame and forks may not be as strong as they once were.

edscoble · 4th July 2009

for the money - you could easily get a custom-build frame locally in the state.

el squire, dented frame doesn't mean it's likely that it's crashed, the strict NJS rules mean even tiny tiny dent cause by the handlebar hitting the top tube are disqualified from the Keirin.

the dent in picture is just a tiny knick that probably cause by the handlebar hitting the TT, in Keirin it's a big no-no, but for normal riding, it's fine.

MrSmyth · 4th July 2009

the fact that it has been dented and disqualified from a real NJS certified betting race kind of adds to the allure don't you think?

edscoble · 4th July 2009

yeah it's can't pass the MOT sadly.

I mean NJS.

motoko · 4th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by edscoble

for the money - you could easily get a custom-build frame locally in the state.

For 500 bucks or 300 pounds what good custom frames can you get? I think as it didn't sell I might be able to command a lower price. What would be reasonable?

edscoble · 4th July 2009

Since you're in the US, and since the seller is too in the US, 500 doesn't seemed much if you collect the bike yourself.

£345 get you a hand-made lugged frame in England, OTP thought but still.

22nd May 2009	#1
mahalo	Makino NJS Hi, I found this frame a makino njs. He wants to sell this frame for 780€. Is it a good price or I have to expect less. He said that is like new and have no dents. what are you thinking about this? thankyou
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22nd May 2009	#2
eddie	how about shipping? don't they take like $120 for export and plus whatever the customs will charge you as well when it arrives to UK. nice frame, but a bit of a steep price.
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22nd May 2009	#4
town	...paying top dollar! and a whole lot more to get it on the road! do it :)
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22nd May 2009	#5
eyebrows	make sure you go pick up the frame, and pay cash, as those photos are taken straight off the web, and are in Japan.
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22nd May 2009	#8
edmundro	sounds fishy to me, is that frame still on njs-keirin as being for sale or in the exported section?
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22nd May 2009	#10
Pistanator	Sounds dodgy! Is it Gabe selling it off the website above ^ or some other fella selling it in France that already bought it from the website and he's re-selling?? Gabe who runs that site is based in NYC but his mate in Japan ships the frames worldwide
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22nd May 2009	#11
rocker9455	sounds a littleless fishy now!
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23rd May 2009	#21
mahalo	I received an e-mail from Gabe, He doesn't know he can't remember....
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17th June 2009	#22
tokyofixedgear	Interlink, road service. £14 flat rate!
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4th July 2009	#24
motoko	Just reviving this thread. Does anyone think that this frame is worth the $550 which he is asking for it? It does have a dent in the top tube. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=110407841843 I was gonna message the guy as the item didn't sell and see if I could make a deal.
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4th July 2009	#25
el squire	The kind of money you're going to spend on buying it, shipping it and then import tax could be put to much better use. So.... Are you in London? Yes? Get yourself to Tour De Ville and pick up something nice, possibly something Italian. No? Keep on searching.
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4th July 2009	#28
edscoble	for the money - you could easily get a custom-build frame locally in the state. el squire, dented frame doesn't mean it's likely that it's crashed, the strict NJS rules mean even tiny tiny dent cause by the handlebar hitting the top tube are disqualified from the Keirin. the dent in picture is just a tiny knick that probably cause by the handlebar hitting the TT, in Keirin it's a big no-no, but for normal riding, it's fine.
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