My armstrong frame that I'm collecting parts for has 110 mm spaced rear dropouts.

20 minutes of googling/ebaying has turned up nowt in the way of 110 mm rear hubs. Someone (I think object17?) informed me that suzue make narrow hubs, but i couldnt find any in my search. So, i guess, does anyone happen to have any 110 spaced rear hubs lying around? I'd be willing to part with cash. Alternatively, as I am going to get the frame re-sprayed anyway, does anyone know how much extra a bit of cold-setting would set me back? The frame is steel by the way. This would make finding a pair of (colourful) hubs a lot easier! Also the dropouts seemed to take some rather narrow axles too, but i think this may just be the (woeful) paintjob. Sheldon our lord and master has a bit of a tutorial on cold-setting, but the thought of getting a lump of timber and applying force to my bike makes me slightly scared. However, has anyone tried this?

Thanks a bunch

- asm

I'd get it sprung INWARDS to 100mm spacing, then run a front hub in the back and go drivetrainless.

Trust me, velocipedes are about infiltrate the scene...

think your onto something there

im in

DUDE thanks for the insider info! man i'll be too cool for school. I'm gonna run it brakeless and handlebar/stemless too!

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Sovus-Sovus-Double-sided-Gear-Fixed-hub-with-Nutted-axle--110mm-OLN--Overall-axle-length-152mm-36-hole-499.htm

Found these. £14.99 is cheap cheap cheap, but are they any good?

at 14.99 who cares? Just try them out and dispose of them in style if they suck..

:)

they are solid.

rather than cold set, a framebuilder might prefer to replace the BB bridge and seatstay/brake bridge with longer ones to respace to 120 oln

which would cost £$£$£$£$

buy the sovus hub (or two and keep one boxed away) and be happy.

110mm is the old NJS standard, so you can find a few Japanese hubs in this width (DA, Suzue etc). Phil wood also makes 110mm adapator kit for any Phil hub.

This might also explain why you think the frame dropouts might be an issue. If its built like an older NJS frame then they're designed for slotted axles. Its quite easy to either mod the frame or the axle.

Vile slander. When was this alledged utterance of advice? I demand dates and witnesses.

don't system-x come in 110?? if you took out one of the spacers in my ambrosia hubs from each side it would be close to 110mm ;)

There is a thin removable(1mm) washer between the two locknuts either side a system-x hub. But those locknuts are there on purpose so I wouldn´t go taking them out.
120mm spacing on those hubs so they say but I have to push apart my Steamroller dropouts(120mm) to fit it.

You can go for the Sovos from SJS, or something old school like 190163005383 on eBay - these old hubs pop up form time to time, but your main issue will be with getting a 40 hole rim.

If you want something perhaps with sealed bearings or a bit higher quality, Phil do a single sided hub at 110mm. I recall that Wil at Hubjub was predicting the price of these would be similar to the Phil double sided hub at 120mm. Otherwise you could get Royce to make you up one. Again it will be over £100, but factor in the cost of any frame shenanigans and suddenly it don't seem so expensive.

To make something more sensible from BringMeMyFix's comment, you could go with a 100mm front disc hub and put a couple of 5mm spacers on the axle, then drill and bolt your fixed sprocket (you will need a bigish rear cog) to the 6 brake disc mounting threaded holes.

Good point. There's a 63xc article along those lines here.

Thanks for the tips guys. I am tempted (£130 is a LOT for a rear hub...) to go down the bling route and get phil hubs - having trouble finding that 110 mm adaptor kit that pip was talking about though. I think you're right about the slotted axles too. a spot of filing should sort that out though :)

I like the idea of buying 2 of the sovus ones. Annoying that i can't find anything between the ultra cheap and the top of the line though. Can you get conversion kits for any hubs?

just buy the sovos one. it's not worth blowing a phil on a conversion frame i think...
don't know of any of the new hubs that will be able to get them down to 110... it's really either the sovos or look for some old hubs really... see if u can find one of those maillard normandy ones... the one i have got 2 5mm spacers on each side so they can actually do with.