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Old 4th October 2007   #1
d_c
New Sturmey Archer ASC on the way?

I don't know if anyone else responded to the link on Sheldon's site to email SunRace about a possible new version of the Sturmey Archer ASC hub, but if you did you might also have received the following email.

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SunRace Sturmey ArcherHello Everyone,

I would first like to thank everyone for their interest in our upcoming remake of the ASC. As we grow closer to production I will be posing questions on our blog www.sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com regarding what you would like to see in the final production model.

The first question is regarding the acceptable amount of backlash in the hub. Meaning the amount of slack there is before engagement. The original was quite sloppy in this regard but we are interested in your opinion. The question is up now in the form of a poll and if you have a minute and could head over to the blog and add your 2 cents I would greatly appreciate it!

David Prosser
Sunrace Sturmey Archer
3212 Jefferson Street #409
Napa, CA 94558

www.sunrace.com
www.sturmey-archer.com
Sounds like they are giving it some serious consideration - fingers on buttons and cast your votes now!
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Old 4th October 2007   #2
d_c
And for those who don't yet know, consult the oracle:

http://sheldonbrown.com/asc.html

Basically its your all in one three fixed gears in a tin can hub transmission wotsit innit.
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Old 5th October 2007   #3
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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Where is this pole?
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Old 5th October 2007   #4
d_c
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TheBrick(Tommy):Where is this pole?
If you follow the link to the blog page, it's the end item on the right hand side of the page. Spread the word!
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Old 5th October 2007   #5
TheBrick(Tommy)
 
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ah found it could not find the comment section though for other.
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Old 3rd September 2008   #6
runcible rakan
 
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Got this in an email from Jack from the Bike Show.

http://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspo...r-3-speed.html



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The first batch of prototype Fixed Gear 3 speeds is finished. The new hub will be called the S3X. The hub will be made using a much stronger aluminum hubshell. Overall gear range will be 160%.
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Old 3rd September 2008   #7
h2o
that's made my evening. proper fixed gear touring now looks possible...
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Old 4th September 2008   #9
Ramon
Fab. Was thinking about this a couple of nights ago.
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Old 4th September 2008   #10
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I'll be honest, although I am hankering after one of these SunRace Sturmey Archer 3spd fixed hubs, it just seems a little bit against the spirit of the purity of fixed and singlespeed cycling.

True, it is fixed, but surely the purpose of single cog riding is that there is so much less to go wrong? How many people will feel qualified to take apart this 3spd hub and repair it themselves? At the moment, with singlespeed cycling, there is really only the chain, cog and chainring to worry about in the drivetrain.

I think its a great idea, but also, with more things to go wrong................................?
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Old 4th September 2008   #11
freddonor
 
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they need servicing every 1000 years. between that just a few drops of oil and a wipe with a rag.
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Old 4th September 2008   #12
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Starting to think about parts for my retro fixed touring bike. I am now pissing my frilly knickers with excitement.
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Old 4th September 2008   #13
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fred: they need servicing every 1000 years. between that just a few drops of oil and a wipe with a rag.


And the gear changer.......if it gets a whack?

It does stand out from the hub axle, so could get knocked hard against something?
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Old 4th September 2008   #14
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chain is replaceable, gears are planetary design.
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Old 27th September 2008   #15
wiganwill
 
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Cyclingnews.com reports that it's ready and will soon be available; pics too
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Old 19th February 2009   #16
irish mick
 
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any updates? i thought it was supposed around now?
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Old 19th February 2009   #17
d_c
All news is on the Sturmey Archer blog:

http://www.sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspot.com/

They say that they're aiming for a March launch.
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Old 26th September 2009   #18
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guess what?

Condor have them in stock, for £130, i thought that a reasonably good price, the guy there show it to me on the Tempo, work brilliantly, but it's not entirely fixed thought, it got a bit of 'freewheel' back and forth but that it.

I'm thinking about getting it for long distance ride, need to inform scott about it.
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Old 26th September 2009   #19
edscobledonor
 
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Here you go, don't think the thumb shifter come with the S3X thought as it appear to be well worn;



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Old 26th September 2009   #20
irish mick
 
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i thought it would never actually come out... think i'll wait til next summer now and stick it on a frame with cantis, panniers and mudguards and finally do some touring.
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Old 26th September 2009   #21
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me too, after seeing Scott's Gangsta "tourer", I'm very tempted to.
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Old 27th September 2009   #22
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Originally Posted by edscoble View Post
but it's not entirely fixed thought, it got a bit of 'freewheel' back and forth but that it.
What do you mean a bit of freewheel? When changing gears?
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Old 27th September 2009   #23
edscobledonor
 
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no, overall, a tiny bit as if your chain was very slack, not sure if that was normal or not
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Old 27th September 2009   #24
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A bit of backlash in the hub you mean? The ASC was known for having quite a lot of backlash, while the older 2-speed TF had very little.
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Old 27th September 2009   #25
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well, maybe i have to visit condor tomorrow...
perfect timing for thunderbird 2.
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Old 27th September 2009   #26
edscobledonor
 
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yes, backlash, thanks, I didn't know a terminology for that.
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Old 27th September 2009   #27
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Would you have to use these hubs on a road frame for the vertical dropouts and cable guides?
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Old 27th September 2009   #28
edscobledonor
 
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Not necessary, the Condor Tempo doesn't have any cable guide and such (it have horiztonal dropout, it's a singlespeed/fixed wheel bicycle), so it's doable to put it on a track frame.
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #29
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saw the hub in the flesh at the cycle show, they look ok, not too bulky. spoke to the rep who said they are available now for £250 with bar end lever (silver and black only). He also was a little cagey when i asked him how they would hold up to skid stops.
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Old 3 Weeks Ago   #30
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I got a look and spoke to the rep too, who showed me the diagram from the catalogue when i complained they didn't have any opened up to display the insides.

Apparently they are based on the current 5-speed hubs. If i remember correctly, they have a single planetary gear stage with compound planets, two suns and one ring. The planet cage drives the shell in all gears. In top gear the clutch connects from the sprocket to the face of the planet cage to give direct drive. In the other two gears the clutch engages with the ring, and one sun or the other is held fixed to the axle to give the two ratios. In top gear I seem to remember there was one or two degrees of backlash. i don't know about the other gears but there is probably a little more.
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