London Fixed-gear and Single-speed SJS Cycles

noggin · 11th September 2007

Anyone got any idea where I can pick up a Sugino Messenger chainset? Or suggestions for an alternative inexpensive 165mm single chainset for a SS conversion.

Ta very much.

dt · 11th September 2007

hubjub

Elvis · 11th September 2007

could try the 165 dotek's that alans.co.uk sell. I have them on a fixed conversion. not brilliant but cheap at £35.

dogsballs · 11th September 2007

there are cheap RPM ones (same as on the fuji track) for on ebay

edmundane · 11th September 2007

RPM can be had from kiwicycles in hackney too

www.kiwicycles.com

RPM · 11th September 2007

you what?!

ok, not biased here, but the suginos are second best in comparison

Sano · 11th September 2007

You can get RPM's for £38 in Brick Lane Bikes - pretty sure that's without a chainring or BB, though...

edmundane · 11th September 2007

Quote:

RPM:you what?!

ok, not biased here, but the suginos are second best in comparison

we will crank you, RPM :)

yeah but when something's out of stock it doesn't matter if it's best or not it simply does not exist!

kilgore_trout · 11th September 2007

on my track bike i have the sugino rd2s (which i think are what you're talking about..unless you mean the sugino 75/zen messenger combo). i LOVE them. they're really stiff - i've never felt any flex, and they were a lot more affordable than 75s. those + a TA alize (or stronglight depending on what i'm doing) chainring = awesomeness.

noggin · 12th September 2007

Thanks all for the advice. Tried HubJub, but they have sold out of the Suginos - and not expected to re-stock for quite a while. Will check out the RPMs and Doteks.
One way or another I have to get this machine on the road soon...

kowalski · 12th September 2007

Give CONdor a shout.

They're expecting a large shipment of Japanese kit.

ffub · 12th September 2007

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kowalski:Give CONdor a shout.

They're expecting a large shipment of Japanese kit.

He said inexpensive. They won't understand.

noggin · 26th September 2007

UPDATE: Finally plumped for an RPM crankset from Kiwi Cycles (v. friendly & helpful, btw), but if anyone else is looking for Sugino Messengers Brixton Cycles mailed me to say they've taken delivery of some...

Conan · 25th October 2007

Anyone seen those anodized sugino messenger cranks round anywhere. I heard Cavendish had a bunch of anodized stuff in, anyone know if they had these crank?

cheers

dt · 25th October 2007

Cavendish had anodized 75's - not sure if they still do. I think the stuff they had was going pretty quick. Give 'em a call

runcible rakan · 25th October 2007

conan - http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=188_429

Conan · 25th October 2007

wow loads of stuff, thanks

dogsballs · 25th October 2007

beware, i got stung £50 from custom getting stuff from them :( , quickish delivery though.

runcible rakan · 25th October 2007

did you give them any "special postage instructions"?

Conan · 25th October 2007

Yeah just emailed em askin to put gift and to mark down the package, lets see if they do or not? whats the limit before you start to get stung??

Conan · 1st November 2007

this showed up today, no import tax : ). they marked as gift but didnt mark down price. must have got lucky.

dogsballs · 2nd November 2007

what colour?

Conan · 2nd November 2007

piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink

Shinscar · 2nd November 2007

got one 2 weeks ago... try brixton cycles... all good so far no noticeable flexing

dogsballs · 2nd November 2007

so what was the final landed price ~£170 with ring?

Conan · 2nd November 2007

did brixton have the bb for them too, hubjub havent got any at the moment??

Conan · 2nd November 2007

Nah was $150 including postage so what thats like £75. This is the messenger crank not the 75 ones.

dogsballs · 2nd November 2007

not bad!

Shinscar · 2nd November 2007

i think i might have nabbed the last BB... thats pretty good too. the quality is nuts

Platini · 13th August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinscar

got one 2 weeks ago... try brixton cycles... all good so far no noticeable flexing

Jeez, at least introduce yourself.
Bloody newbies, coming on here without so much as a 'by-your-leave'
Grrr...

peahead1880 · 5th November 2008

Hi there.

Was just browsing some info on the sugino messenger crankset and apparently it's very noisy?!!?! Possibly down to not being set up right, but surely you can get the right chainline with with the right bits?

Anyone got any bad experiences with this crankset?

edscoble · 5th November 2008

oh it's a decent little crank, dunno about the noise, used to have it in my old peugeot and didn't notice any (but then I am profoundly deaf), the reason i got it is simply for reliability.

hippy · 6th November 2008

Setup issue. Is your chainline ok? Is the noise actually from the chain/chainring/cog or the crank itself? Maybe BB noise?

vinylpimp · 6th November 2008

I have a gold Zen Messenger Chaing Ring, brand new in package selling at the price I bought it for £45. http://www.londonfgss.com/thread12065.html

You then just have to find the spider, I got mine from Japan at around £80 before the pound against the yen was down by 25% in a month!

peahead1880 · 7th November 2008

ah cheers guys,

i dont have this set up, yet, so the noise issues were just what i read from other people!! But i'm sure if it's set up right there should be no issues. Does it have to be a messenger ring?

craignasty · 7th November 2008

any 130pcd chainring will do.
the messenger chainset are sugino rd2 cranks with a "zen messenger" influenced chainring. you wanna bigger gear - look out for the rd2 chainset - 48/50t

bear in mind stronglight chainrings - about £15 - are a tad flexy and you'll more than likely need the 103mm axle length bb - i'd suggest trying to get the sugino one if you can find them

peahead1880 · 7th November 2008

nice one boys!!! very handy!!!

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11th September 2007	#1
noggin	Anyone got any idea where I can pick up a Sugino Messenger chainset? Or suggestions for an alternative inexpensive 165mm single chainset for a SS conversion. Ta very much.
	quote reply

11th September 2007	#3
Elvis	could try the 165 dotek's that alans.co.uk sell. I have them on a fixed conversion. not brilliant but cheap at £35.
	quote reply

11th September 2007	#4
dogsballs	there are cheap RPM ones (same as on the fuji track) for on ebay
	quote reply

11th September 2007	#5
edmundane	RPM can be had from kiwicycles in hackney too www.kiwicycles.com
	quote reply

11th September 2007	#7
Sano	You can get RPM's for £38 in Brick Lane Bikes - pretty sure that's without a chainring or BB, though...
	quote reply

11th September 2007	#9
kilgore_trout	on my track bike i have the sugino rd2s (which i think are what you're talking about..unless you mean the sugino 75/zen messenger combo). i LOVE them. they're really stiff - i've never felt any flex, and they were a lot more affordable than 75s. those + a TA alize (or stronglight depending on what i'm doing) chainring = awesomeness.
	quote reply

12th September 2007	#10
noggin	Thanks all for the advice. Tried HubJub, but they have sold out of the Suginos - and not expected to re-stock for quite a while. Will check out the RPMs and Doteks. One way or another I have to get this machine on the road soon...
	quote reply

26th September 2007	#13
noggin	UPDATE: Finally plumped for an RPM crankset from Kiwi Cycles (v. friendly & helpful, btw), but if anyone else is looking for Sugino Messengers Brixton Cycles mailed me to say they've taken delivery of some...
	quote reply

25th October 2007	#14
Conan	Anyone seen those anodized sugino messenger cranks round anywhere. I heard Cavendish had a bunch of anodized stuff in, anyone know if they had these crank? cheers
	quote reply

25th October 2007	#16
runcible rakan	conan - http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=188_429
	quote reply

1st November 2007	#21
Conan	this showed up today, no import tax : ). they marked as gift but didnt mark down price. must have got lucky.
	quote reply

2nd November 2007	#23
Conan	piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink
	quote reply

2nd November 2007	#24
Shinscar	got one 2 weeks ago... try brixton cycles... all good so far no noticeable flexing
	quote reply

5th November 2008	#31
peahead1880	Hi there. Was just browsing some info on the sugino messenger crankset and apparently it's very noisy?!!?! Possibly down to not being set up right, but surely you can get the right chainline with with the right bits? Anyone got any bad experiences with this crankset?
	quote reply

5th November 2008	#32
edscoble	oh it's a decent little crank, dunno about the noise, used to have it in my old peugeot and didn't notice any (but then I am profoundly deaf), the reason i got it is simply for reliability.
	quote reply

6th November 2008	#33
hippy	Setup issue. Is your chainline ok? Is the noise actually from the chain/chainring/cog or the crank itself? Maybe BB noise?
	quote reply

6th November 2008	#34
vinylpimp	I have a gold Zen Messenger Chaing Ring, brand new in package selling at the price I bought it for £45. http://www.londonfgss.com/thread12065.html You then just have to find the spider, I got mine from Japan at around £80 before the pound against the yen was down by 25% in a month!
	quote reply

7th November 2008	#35
peahead1880	ah cheers guys, i dont have this set up, yet, so the noise issues were just what i read from other people!! But i'm sure if it's set up right there should be no issues. Does it have to be a messenger ring?
	quote reply

7th November 2008	#36
craignasty	any 130pcd chainring will do. the messenger chainset are sugino rd2 cranks with a "zen messenger" influenced chainring. you wanna bigger gear - look out for the rd2 chainset - 48/50t bear in mind stronglight chainrings - about £15 - are a tad flexy and you'll more than likely need the 103mm axle length bb - i'd suggest trying to get the sugino one if you can find them
	quote reply

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