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Old 29th September 2008   #1
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Record vs DA

As a rule I wouldn't use Campag due to it's stupid price and lack of compatability but I've just bought an Italian frame and feel like not using Campag would detract from the finished build. Then I thought fuck it I've used Shimano for years and never had a Japanese frame so why worry about it now. Then I got confused and needed a lay-down to decide whether I buy the Record or DA track components (hubs and Chainset) as they're both the same priceish.
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Old 29th September 2008   #2
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http://www.londonfgss.com/thread10186.html

;-)
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Old 29th September 2008   #3
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ha ha

Component stress, must be common round here

i say mix em!
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Old 29th September 2008   #4
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Love the thread Nazis that patrol forums with the witty links back to old relevant threads.

You're fucking cool man!
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Old 29th September 2008   #5
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I love the fucking effort people go to start a new thread, but dont even think/bother using search.
Last edited by Shinscar; 29th September 2008 at 15:47.. Reason: add the word fucking
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Old 29th September 2008   #6
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Wrestling with your dilemma has obviously affected your sense of humour.

Does it matter? Really? Did I miss a bit of Dante's Inferno where he defined a level of purgatory for those who sully an Italian frame with Japanese bits?
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Old 29th September 2008   #7
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sorry andy youve lost me mate. ;)
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Old 29th September 2008   #8
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dovoneil, mr p's no thread nazi, just doing what you should have done, search is your friend, from the beginning to the end. :-P
and my tuppence worth is, work out what your budget is, what you like the look of and stick it on the bike, asking our opinion doesn't really mean a hell of a lot as we won't be the ones riding or admiring it...
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Old 29th September 2008   #9
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Old 29th September 2008   #10
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Yeah sorry about that.
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Old 29th September 2008   #11
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It doesn't matter, does it?
Whatever gets you rollin' IMHO... Also respect the purist thing tho', I'm sure it feels lovely for about 5 mins...
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Old 29th September 2008   #12
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get whichever you can obtain the best discount on.

if the price is the same get shimano, because it's better*

*I like my DA drivetrain, and shimano give you nice diagrams and part numbers in english, and the importers get shit done. Campag is for bedwetters and arty-farty types who cry when they get a splinter.
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Old 29th September 2008   #13
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No worries - what still isn't clear (to me at least) is if you're asking a question. If you are, what is it?
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Old 29th September 2008   #14
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Campag is for bedwetters and arty-farty types who cry when they get a splinter.
You couldn't have described me better :0)
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Old 29th September 2008   #15
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Not really just typing a thought or two. My ideal reply would have been a load of pictures of Italian bikes wearing Shimano jewelery. That would have made my decision for me.

Probably going to get Shimano anyway as I've seen a set of hubs for £76 incl delivery.
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Old 29th September 2008   #16
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Yeah, but they're probably wank.
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Old 29th September 2008   #17
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What RPM said.
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Old 29th September 2008   #18
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I have DA cranks, and that basically makes me a fucking ninja.
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Old 29th September 2008   #19
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get whichever you can obtain the best discount on.

if the price is the same get shimano, because it's better*

*I like my DA drivetrain, and shimano give you nice diagrams and part numbers in english, and the importers get shit done. Campag is for bedwetters and arty-farty types who cry when they get a splinter.
Perhaps, but when you're looking to upgrade a bike with mid-range components, and things like the 105 STIs cost near enough £150 and the Veloce Ergos cost half that, it's a different decision. I'm still trying to work that one out - I can get half the Veloce gruppo for the price of those bloody levers...
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Old 29th September 2008   #20
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Both Shimano and Campagnolo make very good quality kit and provide pretty good value for money too. Some people get very precious about it though (go and look at the old C+ forum for evidence). I use Campag but that's because I prefer the shape of the Ergo levers and have all the tools I need for home maintenance.

Many Italian manufacturers fit Shimano kit to their frames. The only people who get upset about it need to put things into perspective.
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Old 29th September 2008   #21
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I was messing with the idea of sticking full vintage Campag Record Pista stuff on my Mercian then realised I was being a complete idiot... I've got a mish-mash of Japanese/Italian bits on there and it rides/looks great... It's easy to get precious, buts it's only a bike at the end of the day...
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Old 29th September 2008   #22
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shimano also make really nice fishing tackle.
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Old 29th September 2008   #23
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buts it's only a bike at the end of the day...
What?? Lost for words!! ;)
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Old 29th September 2008   #24
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shimano also make really nice fishing tackle.
I love a good bit of Japanese tackle...
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Old 29th September 2008   #25
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What?? Lost for words!! ;)
Best advice in the world, that...
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Old 29th September 2008   #26
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there is a weight limit for campag.
if you are a pie-eater get shimano
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Old 29th September 2008   #27
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Campag record crankset and BB is the bollox.
My bike flies with this shit on it
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Old 29th September 2008   #28
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I have squinty little eye's, and that basically makes me a fucking ninja.
:)
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Old 29th September 2008   #29
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Perhaps, but when you're looking to upgrade a bike with mid-range components, and things like the 105 STIs cost near enough £150 and the Veloce Ergos cost half that, it's a different decision. I'm still trying to work that one out - I can get half the Veloce gruppo for the price of those bloody levers...
105:
£107 (with cables)
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/produc...SS600000000000

Veloce:
£80
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productD...roductID=11019
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Old 29th September 2008   #30
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@:)
fixed, nice wig.
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Old 29th September 2008   #31
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touche
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Old 29th September 2008   #32
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Best advice in the world, that...
Ta, I was up all night writing those words
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Old 29th September 2008   #33
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105:
£107 (with cables)
[url]Veloce:
£80
http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productD...roductID=11019
Cheaper from Wiggle... Think I got mine for £69. In the end I just prefer the thumb downshifter - makes more sense in my head than the Shimano downshift technique.

And blah blah blah the Campags are a work of art etc.
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Old 29th September 2008   #34
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Fuck all this, we all know what you're really contemplating:
"What looks better?"

Campagnolo
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