here my bikes and bikes to be (I know, the condor doesn't qualify but I do ride mountains in bavaria and toscany occasionally, wouldn't attempt that on a fixed). The blue one is nondiscriptive french frame, stronglight cranks, rubbish wheels (whatever they are) but its been going quite well for the past year. The red one is a frame I bought from a friendly old guy at the Zurich velodrome. With some help it may become a decent bike one day.